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This is totally confusing. I don't think you're defining "deserve" at all here, but I do see the monopolistic hoarding problem you're describing. If that hoarding is what you mean by profit, then yeah I don't agree with it, and it's obviously a violent act. But when defining profit here, you say it's just the fruits of labor? In that case, of course I do think people deserve profit, and it's similar to my definition which involves mutual benefit. I don't get which you mean here.

Communists do usually refer to profit as the portion of the fruits of labor that is stolen by a capitalist from a laborer. e.g. If I pay you $10 to make a shirt that I sell for $15, I make $5 profit, which means I have stolen $5 of your labor. This is an exploitation of the laborer, equivalent to stealing, and underpinned by violence (i.e. if the laborer tries to get their $5 back, the capitalist fundamentally must use violence to stop it). That's the definition that communists use to say profit is immoral.

So yeah if being confused makes me bad faith then fine, no skin off my back.