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foolm0r0n posted...

You're using 2 very loaded terms here

I mean if you're just going to argue semantics about what I've posted when the intention of what I am saying should be pretty clear it becomes obvious you're not having this discussion in good faith. So I'll restate what I said very specifically and I will only do this once because I want to give you the benefit of the doubt.

I'm not going to go through the entirety of what I posted and rewrite it but I will address the the two point things you are being semantic about.

Deserve - I believe that you'd be hard pressed to find anyone that agrees 1 single person or small group of people should have the power to withhold the necessities of life and society based on the sole premise that they claim ownership of them. In so that if they decided to stop providing them humanity would die out or society as we know it would crumble and fall to apocalyptic levels.

If you do agree that a single person or small group of people should have the power to control human/societal necessities based solely on their claim of ownership I would like you to explain why and explain how it benefits society and humanity on a fundamental level.

Profit - The fruit of the labour. I would imagine this is pretty simple to understand, maybe the fact that I didn't specify I'm not imagining this a cashless/money-less society threw you for a loop, but anything that requires you to enlist the help of another to provide your service or product to everyone that needs or wants it should result in them getting a fair share of whatever it is that is exchange for the labour they put in to help you provide that.
foolm0r0n posted...

You're essentially using profit as a synonym for violence here

No I am not and there is absolutely no fucking way you can be serious in even claiming to think that.
foolm0r0n posted...

If you are able to define profit as something crucial to life, like reducing CO2 production or saving water

Is there a common conception that profit is defined as reducing CO2 or saving water I am unaware of? Like you seem to be under the assumption that the vast majority of people that invent products, devise new ideas or work to better humanity do it solely for capitalist gain when that is rarely if ever the actual case. It is capitalists that typically get their hands on these kinds of things and attempt to profiteer off of it, in an attempt to gain power, influence and wealth.

I do not disagree that if a person discovers some way to advance humanity or society they deserve some kind of compensation. The problem I have is that when a capitalist gets their hands on it they hold that advancement behind a fucking paywall.