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ToteAll posted...

1. I live in another right wing country but that actually has representation of the entire spectrum, I don't live nor am I talking about specifically about Europe.
2. Your logic is so skewed it's hard to take seriously. Forgetting point 1, the fact that that there are alt right political parties in other places of the world doesn't magically cut off the political spectrum, specially since the US' artifical cut-off is on the other side.

What skewed logic? I was just bringing up the pervasive misconception that everyone in Europe is super far left.

I guess the point you're trying to emphasize is that you think American democrats are right-wing. You can argue it but the right-wing / left-wing dichotomy is ambiguous and everyone in 2024 interprets what it means differently so it's kind of fruitless.

As I mentioned, the term right-wing and left-wing originally refer to classism. Specifically - it's the side of the room that French legislators would sit at the time of the French Revolution. Right-wing would refer to those who believe class structures are inevitable, or maybe even preferable. Left-wing would refer to those who believe everyone should be treated and represented equally. People like to add their own additional explanations on what the words mean but since everyone is making their own personal definitions then it's like communicating in a different language. Are the Democrats in favor of classism? Well, less so than Republicans obviously. Democratic politicians nationwide are generally more likely to pass corporate regulation, minimum wage raises, pro-union legislation, and higher taxes on wealthy. Which are all more anti-class structure things.

Is that still right-wing, and where does left-wing begin then? Do you need to introduce anti-currency and anti-landownership into your beliefs to get to "true" left-wing? Or is that where far-left-wing begins. Do they need to be HARDER on workers' rights legislation before it's truly left-wing, and if so where does that start? What's an example of a "sort of left-wing, not extreme left-wing" party somewhere in the world to you?

It's all inherently nebulous, so I'm always confused why people get so pedantic on the exact classification of things like this.