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HHH_is_the_game posted...

I honestly don't know HOW to respond to somebody that refuses to acknowledge why the phrase is problematic. Im sure there are people that say that any criticism of Israel is anti-semitic, but I don't agree with them, as Ive said many times. There are legitimate fears out there that people have that this is an anti-semitic movement. I don't think it's true, mainly, and if it's not true, wouldn't you want everybody to know it isn't true?

Ive seen them chant things that are fair, and also things that are uncomfortable.

If they have so many chants, why do they insist on using the one that sounds violent and is used by hamas and associated with genocide? Or is there a section of the protests, if just a small amount, that are angry and DO like the idea of throwing genocidal things in retaliation for the Israeli genocide? I don't want to believe that, but their insistence is concerning. And I feel like if this was the right doing it, everybody would feel the same way and rightfully call out the behavior.

You have repeatedly refused to acknowledge that there may be a section of the protesting group that is influenced by anti-semitism so you can't be engaged with really.....I've tried numerous times to explain why it's problematic, and why it's problematic how people react when that's pointed out, but it is brushed off and ignored, which is exactly the problem people have in the first place.

Im not even engaging in the topics about the actual conflict anymore, this is about protests and students in America.

The phrase can be problematic, don't think I've ever said otherwise. I just don't think it really is in these protests, because it's been co-opted. Remember when you said phrases can be co-opted and then acted like that couldn't possibly have happened to this phrase because it completely shuts down your whining?

You of all people saying someone else can't be engaged with is fucking deeply hilarious and hypocritical.

And we know you won't engage in topics about the actual conflict anymore; it's way harder to hide your actual goal of deflecting and downplaying the actual ongoing genocide if you have to talk about it directly.