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Topic	If existential fear won't get you to vote against Trump, then nothing will.
legendary_zell 04/26/24 9:38:40 PM #308:	Cemith posted... Fortune Cookie does. But I don't see you telling him that he's wrong, you're focused on Cemith the meanie. My approach to him and his stance in this topic is much more likely to get him to change than yours is. He's not saying he'll vote for Trump or abstain, he's saying he will abstain if Biden doesn't change his stance. Urging the types of actions that might bring that about is the best way to strengthen democracy, fight fascism, and ensure Biden wins. Again. No one that needed convincing was going to vote anyway. I'm sorry the US Election System is shit but I'm not willing to kowtow to fascism because our system is broken That's absolutely not true. There's many people who can still be brought on board. Believing otherwise is just your version of a blackpill and can also lead to a Biden loss. Except instead of organizing to direct your anger at the powerful, you're directing it impotently at randos online. If that's not kowtowing to fascism, it's at least kowtowing to the conditions that produce fascism. I'm glad they're helping! Doesn't change the reality that if Trump wins the election that Gaza is glassed. Why you refuse to acknowledge this is disturbing. I do acknowledge it, that's why I want Biden to win. The only good outcome here is a Biden win and a change of stance by him. That's the outcome I want to see, you don't seem interested in that. The US is a binary. He either wins or loses. Defending democracy is up there. It's why people need to vote Blue in November. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:980114466] in If existen... [t:80755965]...</cite> <quote>Cemith posted... </cite><quote>Fortune Cookie does. But I don't see you telling him that he's wrong, you're focused on Cemith the meanie.</quote>My approach to him and his stance in this topic is much more likely to get him to change than yours is. He's not saying he'll vote for Trump or abstain, he's saying he will abstain if Biden doesn't change his stance. Urging the types of actions that might bring that about is the best way to strengthen democracy, fight fascism, and ensure Biden wins. <quote>Again. No one that needed convincing was going to vote anyway. I'm sorry the US Election System is shit but I'm not willing to kowtow to fascism because our system is broken</quote>That's absolutely not true. There's many people who can still be brought on board. Believing otherwise is just your version of a blackpill and can also lead to a Biden loss. Except instead of organizing to direct your anger at the powerful, you're directing it impotently at randos online. If that's not kowtowing to fascism, it's at least kowtowing to the conditions that produce fascism. <quote>I'm glad they're helping! Doesn't change the reality that if Trump wins the election that Gaza is glassed. Why you refuse to acknowledge this is disturbing.</quote>I do acknowledge it, that's why I want Biden to win. The only good outcome here is a Biden win and a change of stance by him. That's the outcome I want to see, you don't seem interested in that. <quote>The US is a binary. He either wins or loses.Defending democracy is up there. It's why people need to vote Blue in November.</quote> --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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