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Forceful_Dragon posted...

And his motivations have felt sus from day 1.

Taking a free date with red and holding it forever.

Trying to do the same day 2 with Isquen.

Trying to do the same day 3 with Kirby/Sultan.

Trying to do the same day 4 with Isquen (again).

The ONLY thing he has going for him in terms of seeming more town motivated was putting the power in your hands to kill him day 2. But that can be explained as a risk taken by an already outnumbered scum team OR just a hard read that you would never actually drop him to save a Lea who was not showing much willingness to live and play on.

You take away that gambit and what does ulti have going for him?

Ulti with an outspoken appreciation for the power to effectively veto a lynch.

I'm not endorsing his decision making. I am just trying to separate whether his actions are actually alignment indicative.

He said it himself that his plan to save Isquen D2 was set up from before the game even began. Before the game even began, Ulti was already showing interest in abusing this games mechanics. Give a man the ultimate power to disrupt a lynch, and he does it.

Ulti disrespects D1 a lot on principle. I entered the game thinking Red, Ulti, and Corrik all might do exactly what Red did.

D2 Ulti was denied his Isquen love angle, and opted to do something fun with me instead.

D3 and D4 he has stubbornly announced his intent to protect people he thinks is town. And if he's doing it to scum, he's bad. But I kind of think Ulti could just see it as using the format's mechanics in a way that other players aren't willing to. Hard staking players based on his soul reads.

That is where the inconsistencies of him flip flopping on Sultan so much are more damning, by the way. Announcing that Sultan is hard off the table D3 when we clearly see he never really held that conviction.

I'm not really intending to do a hard defense of Ulti here (though that's certainly what it looks like), but I do want to examine the MZero/Ulti interaction like this because I COULD see town Ulti motivations in these actions.