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Topic	Which fictional character is the most powerful?
ParanoidObsessive 09/10/23 1:46:30 AM #48:	AltOmega2 posted... You're not wrong but he technically alerted the Autobots as soon as he started eating the Cybertron moons. Maybe he legitimately didn't know they were Autobot bases? He doesn't eat them until after he's already created Galvatron, at a time when the Autobots technically can't use the Matrix (because the wrong person has it). It's hard to tell because the timing of events in the movies is so inexact (and the writers definitely didn't care about the details all that much), and they never really specify just how Unicron actually travels through the universe (and at what speed), but it's kind of implied that Unicron followed Galvatron back to Cybertron to make sure he kept his end of the bargain - and ate the moons as a deliberate threat (ie, "If you don't do your job I'mma gonna eat your planet."). Even as-is in the film, the only reason the Autobots have even the remotest idea of what Unicron is is because Hot Rod and Kup get lucky and crash on the Quintessons' world, where they talk to the one person in the entire universe who can apparently even tell them that much. While at the same time Ultra Magnus loses the Matrix to Galvatron, who takes it to Unicron, where it's then passed to Hot Rod. If they miss or fail even ONE of those steps, they lose. And even if they DO every one of those steps, but Galvatron decides to just shoot Hot Rod rather than trying to choke him out, they lose. It's the kind of ridiculous chain of coincidences that most fantasy movies will just shrug away as being "fate" or "destiny", and the Star Wars films can only justify with "Umm, it was the WILL OF THE FORCE. Woooo!" It's the kind of plot a railroading GM comes up with in an RPG. (It's also worth remembering that the Autobots have NO IDEA how to actually BEAT Unicron even right up to the very moment they succeed. Hot Rod blurts out that the Matrix can stop him, but that's just gut instinct, and none of the others really seem to take him all that seriously. And none of them knew how to use it anyway. It's pretty much pure luck that the exact right person grabs it while getting choked out by Galvatron.) Ogurisama posted... The-One-Above-All Which one, though? --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:975970493] in Which fict... [t:80555758]...</cite> <quote><cite>AltOmega2 posted...</cite><quote>You're not wrong but he technically alerted the Autobots as soon as he started eating the Cybertron moons. Maybe he legitimately didn't know they were Autobot bases?</quote>He doesn't eat them until after he's already created Galvatron, at a time when the Autobots technically can't use the Matrix (because the wrong person has it).It's hard to tell because the timing of events in the movies is so inexact (and the writers definitely didn't care about the details all that much), and they never really specify just how Unicron actually travels through the universe (and at what speed), but it's kind of implied that Unicron followed Galvatron back to Cybertron to make sure he kept his end of the bargain - and ate the moons as a deliberate threat (ie, "If you don't do your job I'mma gonna eat your planet.").Even as-is in the film, the only reason the Autobots have even the remotest idea of what Unicron is is because Hot Rod and Kup get lucky and crash on the Quintessons' world, where they talk to the one person in the entire universe who can apparently even tell them that much. While at the same time Ultra Magnus loses the Matrix to Galvatron, who takes it to Unicron, where it's then passed to Hot Rod.If they miss or fail even ONE of those steps, they lose. And even if they DO every one of those steps, but Galvatron decides to just shoot Hot Rod rather than trying to choke him out, they lose.It's the kind of ridiculous chain of coincidences that most fantasy movies will just shrug away as being "fate" or "destiny", and the Star Wars films can only justify with "Umm, it was the WILL OF THE FORCE. Woooo!"It's the kind of plot a railroading GM comes up with in an RPG.(It's also worth remembering that the Autobots have NO IDEA how to actually BEAT Unicron even right up to the very moment they succeed. Hot Rod blurts out that the Matrix can stop him, but that's just gut instinct, and none of the others really seem to take him all that seriously. And none of them knew how to use it anyway. It's pretty much pure luck that the exact right person grabs it while getting choked out by Galvatron.)<cite>Ogurisama posted...</cite><quote>The-One-Above-All</quote>Which one, though? --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76"POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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