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TopicBetween george w. and trump who do you believe was the better
darkknight109
08/12/23 1:35:24 AM
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Yellow posted...
Trump actually did very little policy-wise. You might say him making the supreme court conservative bumps him up a notch. But Bush caused many innocent people to die and caused real world pain that we rarely hold in perspective.
Did you forget about Trump fucking up the response to COVID so badly that the US was one of the worst-affected countries in the entire world? The US actually would have been in better shape if Trump had spent the entirety of COVID shutting himself up in Mara Lago and drinking himself into a stupor, because then at least he wouldn't be actively sabotaging the people trying to make things better.

About 300,000 civilians died in the Iraq war; Trump being a moron probably caused at least that many excess deaths due to COVID.

And that's *just* COVID. How many families got ripped apart because of his inhumane practices at the border (some of which are still separated to this day)? How much misery is being caused by his pet court destroying abortion rights? And, of course, there's the rather notable asterisk that, for the first time in US history, under his watch there was not a peaceful transition of power from one administration to the next. The insurrection he fermented has badly shaken the foundations of American democracy and resulted in confederate and nazi flags flying in the capitol building for the first time ever.

Bush certainly caused his fair share of death and destruction, but you could tell he actually gave a shit about the country and was trying, in his own supremely challenged way, to do good. He did things like talk about how the US wasn't at war with Islam and how Muslim Americans were friends and countrymen, not people to be discriminated against. Could you ever picture Trump saying something like that? Fuck no, he'd launch into the same "both sides" bullshit he pulled out after a tiki torch neo-nazi fucking murdered someone in Charlottesville.

Bush was a moron, but Trump was actually evil. I didn't think we'd see a president more harmful to the US and the world than Bush in my lifetime, but less than 10 years later the Republicans managed to dig one up (and it's darkly impressive that he managed to outdo Bush in terms of shittiness despite only being in office for half as long).

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