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LELuMADuRUSTLED posted...

Gender expectations are just a suggestion, it's guiding men towards what they should aspire to be.

And what value is there in guiding men in particular toward those expectations instead of just guiding everyone toward them with no gendering? Sure, encourage people to play to their strengths, and the statistical reality of the matter is that men are more likely to excel at anything that requires physical strength (though the idea that "protectiveness" as a virtue requires exceptional physical strength isn't really valid in a world with so many easy-to-use weapons), but absolutely none of that requires gendering. Just holding everyone to the standard of doing what they - as individuals, rather than based on which bits they were born with - can do to improve the world around them.

LELuMADuRUSTLED posted...

We're in an awkward place culturally right now where one extreme tends to want the idea of gendered anything done away with and the other extreme wanting everyone who doesn't fall in line shamed. Keeping the gendering of things that the latter does (as a guide) while offering leeway for edge cases is the best approach going forward imo but like everything politics have poisoned the well and you're either a chud or a cuck now so pick a side or you're even worse -- a centrist

Centrism for centrism's sake is a stupid position, though. There's nothing "fair" or "compromising" about just picking a moderate stance between two extremes that differ radically in how empirically or logically substantiated they are. What you're proposing is recognizing that gendering things causes harm and is pointless, but clinging to it anyway because apparently "you're subpar as a man if you don't do what you can to be a good person" is more motivating than "you're subpar as a person if you don't do what you can to be a good person." That's not a position with any logical merit. That's "you have a good point and I can't shoot it down, but I'm more comfortable sticking to a moderate position for the sake of being more moderate."