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Topic	The biggest division from my AI-and-writing workshop.
HaRRicH 05/19/23 12:52:59 PM #1:	Is the below example ethically okay for a writer to apply generative AI? It is absolutely okay! It's probably okay. I thought about it for a whole minute and legitimately do not know. It's probably not okay. It is absolutely not okay! Is the below example ethically okay for a writer to apply generative AI? - Results (42 votes) It is absolutely okay! 9.52% (4 votes) 4 It's probably okay. 23.81% (10 votes) 10 I thought about it for a whole minute and legitimately do not know. 7.14% (3 votes) 3 It's probably not okay. 23.81% (10 votes) 10 It is absolutely not okay! 35.71% (15 votes) 15 I appreciate everyone's feedback from my previous topic! Just finished leading a small two-hour workshop on this and think we learned a lot about the gray areas, so here's one more topic. I'm following about the area that led to the most division. --- THE AREA OF DIVISION: Let's say I wrote the first five lines and the last five lines of a one-minute play. Can I ethically use generative AI to help me segue/tie/write those ten lines together and still say I am the playwright? --- AN EXAMPLE (I didn't actually write any of this but let's say I did for this example): Title: "A Cup of Serendipity" Characters: EMMA: A curious and free-spirited young woman. JAMES: A reserved and analytical young man. Scene: A cozy coffee shop, with a small table and two chairs. EMMA: (enthusiastically) So, James, let me get this straight. You're telling me that we're all just cosmic collisions of atoms, swirling around in a vast universe? JAMES: (leaning back, sipping his coffee) Well, in a nutshell, yes. Science suggests that everything, including us, is composed of tiny particles interacting with each other. EMMA: (leaning forward, eyes sparkling) That's incredible! It's like we're all connected, just floating through space, destined to cross paths at this very moment. JAMES: (smiling, amused) I suppose you could see it that way. It's the beauty of serendipity, isn't it? EMMA: (grinning) Absolutely! Here we are, two atoms colliding in this little coffee shop, sharing a moment of cosmic wonder. [Prompt I can suggest to get a segue: ~~Give me five examples of dialogue regarding how this beginning and end can be connected.~~] EMMA: (gently) James, let's embrace the magic of this moment. Let's take a leap of faith and trust in the serendipity that brought us together. JAMES: (pausing, contemplating) You know what, Emma? You're right. Sometimes it's okay to let go of our calculations and simply embrace the unknown. EMMA: (smiling warmly) Cheers to that, James. Here's to the beautiful chaos of the universe and the unexpected connections it weaves. (They clink their coffee cups together.) JAMES: (grinning) Here's to serendipity and the countless adventures it holds. I'm glad our atoms collided, Emma. EMMA: (raising her cup, playfully) And I'm glad they chose this cozy coffee shop to create our own little universe. Cheers, James. To serendipity! (They share a heartfelt toast and the lights fade out.) --- [Other points of discussion: What if it was just two lines being added? Or just one line? Or it just suggests a general vibe of what could be said for me to then create by myself? What if there was already a written section here and I asked AI to rewrite it for a smoother transition? What if it suggests rewrites to my beginning or end and then I discover the best segue for myself? Does changing the size of this story change the amount of help I can receive? Should I still be able to put my name on this as my own work? Should I still be able to submit this for producing and publishing opportunities? Should I still be paid if this assistance won me money?] --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg <cite>HaRRicH posted [p:973575852] in The bigges... [t:80449094]...</cite> <quote> Is the below example ethically okay for a writer to apply generative AI? It is absolutely okay! It's probably okay. I thought about it for a whole minute and legitimately do not know. It's probably not okay. It is absolutely not okay! Vote View Results Is the below example ethically okay for a writer to apply generative AI? - Results (42 votes) It is absolutely okay! 9.52% (4 votes) 4 It's probably okay. 23.81% (10 votes) 10 I thought about it for a whole minute and legitimately do not know. 7.14% (3 votes) 3 It's probably not okay. 23.81% (10 votes) 10 It is absolutely not okay! 35.71% (15 votes) 15 Show Voting Form function poll_vote() { var vote_option = $("input[name='poll_vote']:checked").val(); if(!vote_option) return; $.ajax({ type: 'POST', url: '/ajax/forum_poll_vote', data: { option: vote_option, board: '8', topic: '80449094', message: '0', key: '6cef6357' }, success: function(response) { if(response.error) { alert(response.error); } else { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").html(response.html).show(); } } }); } function view_results_legacy() { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").show(); } function hide_results_legacy() { $("#poll_results").hide(); $("#poll_vote").show(); } I appreciate everyone's feedback from my previous topic! Just finished leading a small two-hour workshop on this and think we learned a lot about the gray areas, so here's one more topic. I'm following about the area that led to the most division. --- THE AREA OF DIVISION: Let's say I wrote the first five lines and the last five lines of a one-minute play. Can I ethically use generative AI to help me segue/tie/write those ten lines together and still say I am the playwright? --- AN EXAMPLE (I didn't actually write any of this but let's say I did for this example): Title: "A Cup of Serendipity" Characters: EMMA: A curious and free-spirited young woman. JAMES: A reserved and analytical young man. Scene: A cozy coffee shop, with a small table and two chairs. EMMA: (enthusiastically) So, James, let me get this straight. You're telling me that we're all just cosmic collisions of atoms, swirling around in a vast universe? JAMES: (leaning back, sipping his coffee) Well, in a nutshell, yes. Science suggests that everything, including us, is composed of tiny particles interacting with each other. EMMA: (leaning forward, eyes sparkling) That's incredible! It's like we're all connected, just floating through space, destined to cross paths at this very moment. JAMES: (smiling, amused) I suppose you could see it that way. It's the beauty of serendipity, isn't it? EMMA: (grinning) Absolutely! Here we are, two atoms colliding in this little coffee shop, sharing a moment of cosmic wonder. [Prompt I can suggest to get a segue: Give me five examples of dialogue regarding how this beginning and end can be connected.] EMMA: (gently) James, let's embrace the magic of this moment. Let's take a leap of faith and trust in the serendipity that brought us together. JAMES: (pausing, contemplating) You know what, Emma? You're right. Sometimes it's okay to let go of our calculations and simply embrace the unknown. EMMA: (smiling warmly) Cheers to that, James. Here's to the beautiful chaos of the universe and the unexpected connections it weaves. (They clink their coffee cups together.) JAMES: (grinning) Here's to serendipity and the countless adventures it holds. I'm glad our atoms collided, Emma. EMMA: (raising her cup, playfully) And I'm glad they chose this cozy coffee shop to create our own little universe. Cheers, James. To serendipity! (They share a heartfelt toast and the lights fade out.) --- [Other points of discussion: What if it was just two lines being added? Or just one line? Or it just suggests a general vibe of what could be said for me to then create by myself? What if there was already a written section here and I asked AI to rewrite it for a smoother transition? What if it suggests rewrites to my beginning or end and then I discover the best segue for myself? Does changing the size of this story change the amount of help I can receive? Should I still be able to put my name on this as my own work? Should I still be able to submit this for producing and publishing opportunities? Should I still be paid if this assistance won me money?] --- O P E R A T I O N O U S T : Nominate SHEIK! https://i.imgur.com/OpudFxm.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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