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TopicWhat the hell is up with ugly games these days
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01/08/23 6:30:58 PM
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Like normative is more like 70% of society. Standard deviations is what you should be thinking about if you're bringing that word into the discussion. If you're not okay with that, then ok, use a different word that accurately expresses what you're saying instead of trying to come off as intelligent by misusing concepts.

A normative opinion is something like "I find pixel art unpleasant" because I guarantee you in society as a whole (or even the gaming community as a whole) well under 30% of people are digging that pixel art in video games vs something shiny.

When you say "Axiom Verge 2 is wonderful art and anyone who disagrees doesn't understand art" it's more like "Murder is a perfectly acceptable form of resolving disagreements" in terms of a stated 'opinion.' There are objective truths to subjective artforms at some level, that's why art is a field people can study and why AI can be written to emulate art styles or make aesthetically pleasing things. That doesn't mean that you can't defy those truths and still end up with good art but there is a method to it and certain choices are made not out of a willful style choice but out of negligence or lack of ability/resources, and it's naive to say that's not the case. You arguing otherwise just means you don't understand the artform well enough. That doesn't mean that you can't like things that are objectively 'bad' but just understand your position in liking something that is rightfully called bad on an objective level and be okay with that, because the very nature of subjectivity is that you can subjectively like something that's objectively inferior to something else.

Being humble or enlightened or whatever is not saying that literally everything that you can form an opinion on is subjective, it's realizing that the objective truth isn't always relevant and that you and many others can subjectively enjoy it anyway.

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