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TopicWas John F. Kennedy a good president?
Count_Drachma
07/31/22 10:13:23 PM
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Zareth posted...
He's saying don't rely on your country to do shit for you, you should do it yourself. That's the conservative playbook to a T.

That's literally not what that meant. In fact, it couldn't be further from what he was talking about. JFK was advocating service to government, not service to oneself. He was a statist and -- contrary to your piss-poor understanding -- an advocate for welfare programs. In fact, he massively expanded welfare. I mean, jfc, dude...

Lokarin posted...
I heard someone say Lindon B. Johnson is the best president

LBJ is a major reason why the US fell behind the rest of the world, but he's liked for his social welfare programs, etc. He's less well-liked for his foreign policy, which was generally disastrous in a more direct and obvious way.

Basically, the US had a massive advantage over the rest of the world coming out of WWII because our infrastructure was in better shape. A few presidents later, and that particular advantage was quickly gone. And the overhauls in education from LBJ is a large reason why the public schools are such a mess, and his government-backed college loan program is directly responsible for the college debt crisis and the decline in college standards.

LBJ was a major player in just about every government entitlement. Most of the "scholars" are university professors, etc, who rely on government money, so they tend to rank him favorably. Generally, anybody who grows government they tend to rank favorably.


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