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TopicStar Wars and Pokemon Mafia Topic 13 - The Last Topic
ctesjbuvf
06/11/22 7:35:17 AM
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I'm not even entirely sure what you're hoping for with the Star Trek claim. You should have tried to find a Digimon to work with the name was my first reaction. I mean, my best bet is that you were hoping to get a vote out to hammer.

I get the points about roles having to do something at specific points, but that's just how it is sometimes and at least the player knows this. I mean, your own role kinda needed the host to be around to confirm gladiating had in fact happened. I'm just saying that I wouldn't put any weigh into that part of the claim even if it is fake.

Ghost is potentially really good, but it depends on the player, they don't have the vote, and in this game it would only exist on Star Wars days which makes it significantly less good.

Abacus had already claimed vanilla when Chris claimed, he just hadn't claimed flavor. It was Sbell and me whose roles weren't known.

Kirby321 posted...
1) I corroborated Ulti visiting Chris, as you all know very well. Someone would need to make a good argument for how I could have faked that to make my Watcher claim valid, because again, if I knew Ulti visited Chris, why wouldn't I assume he's the Doctor? Especially since on D3 (I think) Chris pointed out that he was probably only alive because of protection still being in the game, which clearly meant there was a good chance of Ulti being the doctor.

If you're scum I'm still buying watcher. I don't know if you did or did not assume Ulti being doctor. But I do know that he seemed like a decent mislynch target until the point when he had claimed. Plus, scum did a fine job not killing the doctor targets. Ulti said he targetted you every night because of how good watcher is. Yet here it still is on the final day. Our tracket's reason for living as long as he did was that his scans were stolen, but you're still here. Does scum really kill Sbell and not you when killing you was the one certain way to not be watched that night? Perhaps they do and Sbell was deemed your least likely watch but it does seem like an unnecessarily risky play.

Kirby321 posted...
2) If I'm scum, then you'll have to believe that Isquen either didn't use his back-up or burned a redirect on some random, other people. Because clearly nobody was poisoned. I'll concede that me attempting to target Red that night was foolish, but it didn't matter anyway, as I had rightfully predicted scum wouldn't let me scan Hb or Death so easily anyway, and if they did, it's because they weren't gonna kill either of them that night anyway. *sigh* I wish I had considered that logic when Sbell died, but I figured Hb was the higher priority target with his restored scans.

Yeah, these are all fine reasons why I didn't go for you yesterday, but it's not like it can't be explained. Isquen didn't use his backup as fast as he could, maybe he still hadn't maybe he wasted it on tracker or something. A lot of this is why I considered a switch or something like that. It's not like it's needed. Redirector could be faked, but it allows me to make more sense of some things. We've already reached the point where the easy solution wasn't the answer, so that's just how it has to be.

Kirby321 posted...
Therefore, I think Ctes is the remaining scum here. You don't think Chris is scum because of his actions this game, yet you're prattling on about some asinine Darthmanitan theory when your real focus should be on explaining why Isquen failed to use his back-up or didn't redirect Hb instead.

It's not only his actions, he was also neighborized by scum and makes bulletproof have a function. He also absolutely would have used poison, I believe. It's a stronger case.

Regardless of what Isquen did or did not do, poison was not backupped, so there's a limit of how much sense we can't find in however it was used. HB targetting the one person that could out scum is probably something they hit their heads with afterward but didn't find likely enough regardless of your alignment. Perhaps this should be looked into more.

Kirby321 posted...
Oh lol then scum was clearly insane for thinking there was a serial killer on the loose lol

Still not convinced they ever thought this. It's more than likely they just tried to deray the discussion imo.

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