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adjl posted...

Massive industries have arisen entirely based around manipulating women into feeling so insecure about themselves that they spend money to fix it (an example of toxic femininity, actually. Similar industries exist for men, of course, but not to nearly the same extent and without the same underlying social pressure to listen to them)

That is how profiteering works, yes. There's less profit in manipulating men socially when men's brains are physiologically less developed socially. A businesses' job is to manipulate the market to buy, and men and women are both targetted to the best of marketers' ability. I don't believe the success of manipulating women in this way is in any way toxic on a gendered line, it's just classically predatory, and this bait works better on women.

adjl posted...

complete with requiring women to put more effort into researching the products they buy to avoid paying an extra "pink tax."

See above; they do what is most effective

adjl posted...

The onus and side effects of birth control are borne almost exclusively by women (condoms are too unreliable and vasectomies too permanent for regular use, and that's pretty much all the options guys have because so many would-be alternatives have been cancelled for causing the same side effects women routinely see from options that are on the market).

Yup, and as above, that's a product of demand. Men have less to lose from risky sex so have less motivation to pay for means to avoid pregnancy. Notice however, that condom companies aren't exactly broke. Despite the reduced risk, many many men will rely on one when the need is there i.e. stranger danger. As with all things, those who want something take the associated cost of it. If men don't have a demand for deseeding their sacks, then there's zero incentive to make it. This isn't oppression, it's pragmatism.

adjl posted...

These are clear, measurable advantages.

Oh sure, there are physiological advantages, however when you are talking about society and social issues, there are none. It's not the job of society to create equity. You know what none of those privileges described? Wage gap, the jobs men occupy. You know, the things that are typically attributed to male privilege. I fail to see how an expensive shampoo and swallowing pills to get freely nutted in locks women out of these things.

adjl posted...

If I'm broke, it's not because men have a particularly harder time making money, so I shouldn't try to turn it into a men's rights issue.

That is a rather important point. I see a lot of women claiming precisely the inverse, and quite successfully, citing male privilege. He's doing exactly what many have done before him but inversed.

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Except I'm rationalizing what you're trying to dismiss as a double standard

I've seen lots of excuses, not really rationale.