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adjl 05/19/22 5:01:16 PM #41:	Kyuubi4269 posted... Toxic femininity* if anything. Boys find others boys to express themselves with, but they're very much suppressed early on, told they're a danger, to treat others (specifically girls) carefully. This naturally means that these boys aren't completely comfortable with expression to start with, and negative gender stereotypes against boys are pressed on boys as they age, thus have less opportunity to publicly grow. Boys don't start off telling eachother to not express, and it's much more often girls telling boys they can't express discontent as it's treated as being aggressive, even with eachother in public. If you're going to make egrigious sexist claims, start with something to back it. What you described is toxic masculinity: Masculinity = The set of gender norms and expectations associated with males and their behaviour Toxic = Harmful or dangerous (in the context of discussing behaviours) Toxic + Masculinity = A set of gender norms and expectations associated with males and their behaviour that are harmful or dangerous. It's not a sexist term, it's simply acknowledging that some things that society promotes as "masculine" are unhealthy. That's how adjectives work. Some things that society promotes as "feminine" are also unhealthy, and could similarly be called "toxic femininity," but those tend to be ideals along the lines of women being subservient, docile, and content to relegate themselves to housewifery, which more commonly just get called "misogyny," so you don't see the term that often. Kyuubi4269 posted... Conversly Individual men being advantaged does not mean that the average man has it easier, what with outliers typically being cut. Those particular averages don't depend on outliers, though the fact that women are all but categorically excluded from becoming outliers is indeed a symptom of the problem. Kyuubi4269 posted... That is a lot of people, and they are people who tend to express this sentiment too. So call them out for being assholes as is appropriate. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:965159663] in Amber Hear... [t:80024065]...</cite> <quote>Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>Toxic femininity* if anything. Boys find others boys to express themselves with, but they're very much suppressed early on, told they're a danger, to treat others (specifically girls) carefully. This naturally means that these boys aren't completely comfortable with expression to start with, and negative gender stereotypes against boys are pressed on boys as they age, thus have less opportunity to publicly grow. Boys don't start off telling eachother to not express, and it's much more often girls telling boys they can't express discontent as it's treated as being aggressive, even with eachother in public. If you're going to make egrigious sexist claims, start with something to back it.</quote> What you described is toxic masculinity: Masculinity = The set of gender norms and expectations associated with males and their behaviour Toxic = Harmful or dangerous (in the context of discussing behaviours) Toxic + Masculinity = A set of gender norms and expectations associated with males and their behaviour that are harmful or dangerous. It's not a sexist term, it's simply acknowledging that some things that society promotes as "masculine" are unhealthy. That's how adjectives work. Some things that society promotes as "feminine" are also unhealthy, and could similarly be called "toxic femininity," but those tend to be ideals along the lines of women being subservient, docile, and content to relegate themselves to housewifery, which more commonly just get called "misogyny," so you don't see the term that often. Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>Conversly Individual men being advantaged does not mean that the average man has it easier, what with outliers typically being cut.</quote> Those particular averages don't depend on outliers, though the fact that women are all but categorically excluded from becoming outliers is indeed a symptom of the problem. Kyuubi4269 posted... </cite> <quote>That is a lot of people, and they are people who tend to express this sentiment too.</quote> So call them out for being assholes as is appropriate. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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