LogFAQs > #965159303

adjl posted...

Yes, toxic masculinity is indeed a problem

Toxic femininity* if anything. Boys find others boys to express themselves with, but they're very much suppressed early on, told they're a danger, to treat others (specifically girls) carefully. This naturally means that these boys aren't completely comfortable with expression to start with, and negative gender stereotypes against boys are pressed on boys as they age, thus have less opportunity to publicly grow. Boys don't start off telling eachother to not express, and it's much more often girls telling boys they can't express discontent as it's treated as being aggressive, even with eachother in public.

If you're going to make egrigious sexist claims, start with something to back it.

adjl posted...

Most saliently, though, you seem to be conflating "men are advantaged" with "no men ever have any problems ever." Those are two very different statements. The former is a statistical claim, the latter an individual one. Individual men having problems does not mean that men don't generally have it easier, on average.

Conversly Individual men being advantaged does not mean that the average man has it easier, what with outliers typically being cut. Unfortunately, people use the group statement to disparage individual men, so it's pretty reasonable to treat it as an attack on the individual.

adjl posted...

Conversely, men generally having it easier on average doesn't mean that individual men can't have legitimate problems, so anyone that dismisses a legitimate problem you have just because you're a man is being an asshole.

That is a lot of people, and they are people who tend to express this sentiment too. This is the current stereotype applied to the use of "toxic masculinity", it's pretty poor optics outside the group.