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StealThisSheen posted...

The rest were either me speaking about a character, like Maria Bramford, or referencing you as the topic creator when talking to somebody else. I bolded the ones where we actually argued, which was three times. One of them I felt was very civil, one of them we admitted we got off on the wrong foot and ended fine, and the only one I'd say got truly heated was the save state one, but you attacked me first. Three times over many years, and only one actually got heated. I feel like my position of not remembering being part of a group of users that gang up on you seems fairly justified.

sure. personally I don't think it's actually valid for you to totally forget about it, and then once confronted with evidence just continue on. but either way, if you think you're justified, then so be it.

but I also feel that my stance is justified. while you may not consider yourself to be a part of the group, the reality is that if 10 people are arguing with me, and you are number 11, you're going to get remembered as part of the group. it's not about the severity of the argument, it's about the ridiculous extent of topic derailing from multiple users all nitpicking the same person.

(this topic itself is not a good example, for the record. well, it's a good example of foolmo's insanity but otherwise there is no real ganging up in this topic.)

as evidenced by my earlier post, I had remembered specifically arguing with you in the gun control topic. and I knew we had argued several times before, maybe not the exact severity or extent. but, once again, this isn't solely about you. it's a pattern of behavior involving multiple users.

as I said in my earlier post, maybe it's true (or not) that you were unfairly lumped in with others. but that only happened because you coincidentally were doing the same thing as some of them, at the same time as some of them. probably on multiple occasions, but maybe just one (with other misc arguing in between) if we want to give you the extreme benefit of the doubt. there are very likely other times we interacted where you never said the word maria. where either I or you used different usernames. or it just didn't get logged somehow. I'm also not going to read all of these old topics, so anything that you report is likely to have at least a slight bias in your own favor. and most importantly, even if you don't INTEND to do something, that doesn't mean that it's not happening. you can still be a member of a group all performing the same action, even if it wasn't premeditated.