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TopicGrand jury declines to charge a man who murdered homeless man
adjl
03/04/22 9:11:11 AM
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Veedrock- posted...
That article conveniently leaves out that he was shot in the stomach and died in the hospital. Even if the shooter's actions were extreme it doesnt seem the shooter was trying to kill him.

You don't attack people with lethal force unless you're trying to kill them. Period. It doesn't matter how long after shooting him he died from his injuries, this man was deliberately killed.

Veedrock- posted...
It doesn't have the malice or premeditation for murder.

It's hard to be more malicious than responding to somebody asking for money by shooting them. Premeditation is only a requirement for first-degree murder, and even then, it's not nearly as clear-cut as having a defined plan to go murder somebody so much as it's a matter of making a clear-headed decision to kill somebody when you had plenty of opportunity to make a better decision (as opposed to second-degree, which entails committing murder in the heat of a conflict that has escalated). Second-degree murder would be pretty easy to push for here, even if we accept the claim that there was a confrontation of some sort (which is questionable, given that the interaction lasts all of seven seconds and shows no physical confrontation of any sort).

Veedrock- posted...
You could try manslaughter but it'd be argued against self defense, the only court admissible account of events.

The security footage is admissible and shows the entire incident.

Fam_Fam posted...
*makes assumptions*

*Google search*

yep

It really shouldn't be so easy to correctly make assumptions like that, but here we are.

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