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adjl 01/29/22 10:42:39 AM #41:	Zeus posted... >Says no cherrypicking >Advances an outrageously cherrypicked excuse He was specifically responding to the example given. Zeus posted... ...that's not what it f*ing is. You're just completely redefining s. And how would you define it? Bear in mind that (in case me explicitly indicating that I was doing so didn't make it clear enough) I distilled the concept down to the ultimate relationship between the attitude and the practical consequence, so if you give a definition that has not been similarly distilled, be aware that there's a good chance I'll distill it for you and end up right back where I started. Zeus posted... Either that's hyperbolic or hyper... well, drawing a blank on the word. Anyway, I'm probably calling bulls on it being that high. That might be the number of students who wish they were sexually active, but it's probably not the number. https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/content/uploads/sites/10/2016/01/SSuN-Fact-Sheet-Age1stSex-04-10-13.pdf A single study is hardly conclusive, but that's finding 23.7% of guys had sex by age 13. 51.2% had done so by age 15 (grade 9), along with 47.3% of girls. That's obviously lower than my estimate for grade 7, but not by that much. and it roughly tracks for grade 8. I also went to a school that covered one of the city's major public housing neighbourhoods and therefore had more black students than the general population's demographics would suggest, and I would expect that to bring the average down based on the racial stats there (and, less concretely, cultural differences among lower-SES groups). Again, mine is a very rough, anecdotal estimate, so drawing any broader statistical conclusions from it would be silly, but the fact of the matter is that a significant number of people are sexually active by grade 8. Unbridled9 posted... Or, ya know, I decided to remain abstinent until marriage? That IS a thing, especially among religious families (of which I am a part of). Either way, the most 'sexual' anyone in my friend group got was a lesbian girl hitting on other girls (who weren't interested.) The boys did their own thing and the girls kept true to the upbringing. I can almost guarantee that more of your peers were sexually active than you thought, and probably even younger than the general average. They just didn't admit to it because the local culture pressured them into being ashamed of that. Revelation34 posted... It actually can't but you can believe it does. If you think there's something wrong with my rationale, you're welcome to point it out. If you can't point out anything wrong with my rationale, then you shouldn't believe that I'm wrong. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:962177693] in Republican... [t:79871677]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>>Says no cherrypicking >Advances an outrageously cherrypicked excuse</quote> He was specifically responding to the example given. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>...that's not what it fing is. You're just completely redefining s.</quote> And how would you define it? Bear in mind that (in case me explicitly indicating that I was doing so didn't make it clear enough) I distilled the concept down to the ultimate relationship between the attitude and the practical consequence, so if you give a definition that has not been similarly distilled, be aware that there's a good chance I'll distill it for you and end up right back where I started. Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>Either that's hyperbolic or hyper... well, drawing a blank on the word. Anyway, I'm probably calling bulls* on it being that high. That might be the number of students who wish they were sexually active, but it's probably not the number.</quote> https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/content/uploads/sites/10/2016/01/SSuN-Fact-Sheet-Age1stSex-04-10-13.pdf A single study is hardly conclusive, but that's finding 23.7% of guys had sex by age 13. 51.2% had done so by age 15 (grade 9), along with 47.3% of girls. That's obviously lower than my estimate for grade 7, but not by that much. and it roughly tracks for grade 8. I also went to a school that covered one of the city's major public housing neighbourhoods and therefore had more black students than the general population's demographics would suggest, and I would expect that to bring the average down based on the racial stats there (and, less concretely, cultural differences among lower-SES groups). Again, mine is a very rough, anecdotal estimate, so drawing any broader statistical conclusions from it would be silly, but the fact of the matter is that a significant number of people are sexually active by grade 8. Unbridled9 posted... </cite> <quote>Or, ya know, I decided to remain abstinent until marriage? That IS a thing, especially among religious families (of which I am a part of). Either way, the most 'sexual' anyone in my friend group got was a lesbian girl hitting on other girls (who weren't interested.) The boys did their own thing and the girls kept true to the upbringing.</quote> I can almost guarantee that more of your peers were sexually active than you thought, and probably even younger than the general average. They just didn't admit to it because the local culture pressured them into being ashamed of that. Revelation34 posted... </cite> <quote>It actually can't but you can believe it does.</quote> If you think there's something wrong with my rationale, you're welcome to point it out. If you can't point out anything wrong with my rationale, then you shouldn't believe that I'm wrong. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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