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adjl 12/19/21 11:42:01 PM #93:	OhhhJa posted... These same people were telling us a while back that the mRNA vaccines were more effective than previous vaccines and that the spike protein would give us super immunity to covid. You mean before a vaccine-resistant variant emerged that generally reduced the efficacy of the vaccines across the board? I can't imagine what might have changed. OhhhJa posted... And that if you got your shots your life would go back to normal regardless of whether other people got theirs. Nobody ever suggested that. At best, it was expected that being vaccinated would all but eliminate the risk of serious illness/death and that barring the unvaccinated from public spaces would reduce case loads by enough to make further restrictions unnecessary. With half the population still refusing the vaccines, though, and pretty much everyone dragging their heels on treating them accordingly and/or trying to remove other restrictions for the vaccinated before case rates actually drop, the case load has remained high enough to both overwhelm the vaccine's protection in many cases and breed resistant variants to make the problem even worse. OhhhJa posted... Fast forward a few months and now they're telling me my shot doesn't last for 3 months lol It still lasts, it just benefits from being boosted, particularly when it comes to dealing with variants that didn't exist when the original two-dose schedule was devised. Even without considering that, though, this sort of change in recommendations is the sort of consequence one can expect from the shortened development time: If your study only lasts six months, you can't collect data on how effective the treatment is after six months. Extrapolation can help, but it only goes so far. OhhhJa posted... What's different about my booster? Why did my two shots 6 months ago not suffice? As the name implies, it boosts your response. This is not an unusual concept; most vaccines you've received have one or more booster doses, including some that require lifelong boosters (mostly just Tdap, which gets a booster every 10 years). Your two shots won't suffice because the immunity has waned (which is expected of any vaccine) while the crisis is ongoing and new factors have been introduced that mean that diminished immunity is no longer enough. So again (since you didn't answer it the first time), I ask: What is your basis for believing that a booster will provide no greater immunity than you've currently got from your first two shots? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:961064023] in Meme topic... [t:79813595]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>These same people were telling us a while back that the mRNA vaccines were more effective than previous vaccines and that the spike protein would give us super immunity to covid.</quote> You mean before a vaccine-resistant variant emerged that generally reduced the efficacy of the vaccines across the board? I can't imagine what might have changed. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>And that if you got your shots your life would go back to normal regardless of whether other people got theirs.</quote> Nobody ever suggested that. At best, it was expected that being vaccinated would all but eliminate the risk of serious illness/death and that barring the unvaccinated from public spaces would reduce case loads by enough to make further restrictions unnecessary. With half the population still refusing the vaccines, though, and pretty much everyone dragging their heels on treating them accordingly and/or trying to remove other restrictions for the vaccinated before case rates actually drop, the case load has remained high enough to both overwhelm the vaccine's protection in many cases and breed resistant variants to make the problem even worse. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Fast forward a few months and now they're telling me my shot doesn't last for 3 months lol</quote> It still lasts, it just benefits from being boosted, particularly when it comes to dealing with variants that didn't exist when the original two-dose schedule was devised. Even without considering that, though, this sort of change in recommendations is the sort of consequence one can expect from the shortened development time: If your study only lasts six months, you can't collect data on how effective the treatment is after six months. Extrapolation can help, but it only goes so far. OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>What's different about my booster? Why did my two shots 6 months ago not suffice?</quote> As the name implies, it boosts your response. This is not an unusual concept; most vaccines you've received have one or more booster doses, including some that require lifelong boosters (mostly just Tdap, which gets a booster every 10 years). Your two shots won't suffice because the immunity has waned (which is expected of any vaccine) while the crisis is ongoing and new factors have been introduced that mean that diminished immunity is no longer enough. So again (since you didn't answer it the first time), I ask: What is your basis for believing that a booster will provide no greater immunity than you've currently got from your first two shots? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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