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Topic	The silent crisis of male suicide.
Zeus 12/12/21 12:12:57 PM #20:	adjl posted... My understanding is that the attempt rate is fairly similar, but men are more likely to succeed, often because they just shoot themselves instead of trying something less messy. I don't know exactly how they compare, though, and it wouldn't surprise me if there is still a significant difference in attempt rate. Or, more likely, that the intent to die is a lot stronger in males. Both genders have access to the EXACT same resources, yet men choose more lethal attempts -- jumping from high buildings, stronger poisons, guns, etc -- as opposed to taking extra sleeping pills where the suicide victim can survive even without intervention of a third-party. Granted, a secondary factor is likely the amount of care shown to females vs males, where intervention is more likely when it comes to women. adjl posted... Most suicide resources aren't really gendered. There are far more gendered support networks for women even before you get to suicide support, which makes this argument wildly disingenuous. And those other networks are generally much better at providing support than the many of the bare-bones suicide-specific ones. adjl posted... The issue is more that there's a stigma around men accessing mental health resources in general, because toxic masculinity's a bitch. Which is a lazy excuse to handwave issues while simultaneously blaming the victims. The real disparity is in the level of care for men, which is unsurprising considering you have elected politicians insisting that men are disposable and then countless people -- even on this board -- toxically trying to justify those misandrist remarks. It gets even worse when you realize the politicians making those remarks are the SAME ones pushing the completely disingenuous (or outright fallacious) "toxic masculinity" nonsense. LinkPizza posted... And then theres Switzerland with their new legal suicide pods Which is unsurprising given that they were at the forefront of the eugenics movement and an inspiration to genocidal madmen the world over. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:960848602] in The silent... [t:79806771]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>My understanding is that the attempt rate is fairly similar, but men are more likely to succeed, often because they just shoot themselves instead of trying something less messy. I don't know exactly how they compare, though, and it wouldn't surprise me if there is still a significant difference in attempt rate.</quote> Or, more likely, that the intent to die is a lot stronger in males. Both genders have access to the EXACT same resources, yet men choose more lethal attempts -- jumping from high buildings, stronger poisons, guns, etc -- as opposed to taking extra sleeping pills where the suicide victim can survive even without intervention of a third-party. Granted, a secondary factor is likely the amount of care shown to females vs males, where intervention is more likely when it comes to women. adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Most suicide resources aren't really gendered.</quote> There are far more gendered support networks for women even before you get to suicide support, which makes this argument wildly disingenuous. And those other networks are generally much better at providing support than the many of the bare-bones suicide-specific ones. adjl posted... </cite> <quote>The issue is more that there's a stigma around men accessing mental health resources in general, because toxic masculinity's a bitch.</quote> Which is a lazy excuse to handwave issues while simultaneously blaming the victims. The real disparity is in the level of care for men, which is unsurprising considering you have elected politicians insisting that men are disposable and then countless people -- even on this board -- toxically trying to justify those misandrist remarks. It gets even worse when you realize the politicians making those remarks are the SAME ones pushing the completely disingenuous (or outright fallacious) "toxic masculinity" nonsense. LinkPizza posted... </cite> <quote>And then theres Switzerland with their new legal suicide pods</quote> Which is unsurprising given that they were at the forefront of the eugenics movement and an inspiration to genocidal madmen the world over. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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