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Topic	Politics Containment Topic 383: Omicrony Capitalism
red sox 777 11/30/21 8:00:08 PM #27:	Mr Lasastryke posted... seems to me like the argument is "biden is way too welcoming to immigrants! if trump were president, they wouldn't even TRY to overflow america with illegal foreign drugs!" don't know if that's actually it but that's a pretty standard xenophobic right-wing talking point. Yes, that's the argument. They wouldn't even try with Trump in charge because they wouldn't think they could succeed. It (and related arguments) actually are applicable a lot of the time. Nixon could pull out of Vietnam because he had a reputation as being tough on communism. So he had the confidence to make the executive decision that the war wasn't worth it. Whereas any Democrat would have been branded as a coward or secret communist. And fearing such ignominy, would have persisted with an unwinnable war. Biden is better than most Democrats on this front but it is hard to repair years of reputational damage, mostly from Obama talking the talk and then turning out to govern as a boring moderate who always ended up following his advisors' advice to protect the establishment. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest! <cite>red sox 777 posted [p:960504215] in Politics C... [t:79786697]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted... </cite> <quote>seems to me like the argument is "biden is way too welcoming to immigrants! if trump were president, they wouldn't even TRY to overflow america with illegal foreign drugs!" don't know if that's actually it but that's a pretty standard xenophobic right-wing talking point.</quote> Yes, that's the argument. They wouldn't even try with Trump in charge because they wouldn't think they could succeed. It (and related arguments) actually are applicable a lot of the time. Nixon could pull out of Vietnam because he had a reputation as being tough on communism. So he had the confidence to make the executive decision that the war wasn't worth it. Whereas any Democrat would have been branded as a coward or secret communist. And fearing such ignominy, would have persisted with an unwinnable war. Biden is better than most Democrats on this front but it is hard to repair years of reputational damage, mostly from Obama talking the talk and then turning out to govern as a boring moderate who always ended up following his advisors' advice to protect the establishment. --- September 1, 2003; November 4, 2007; September 2, 2013 Congratulations to DP Oblivion in the Guru Contest!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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