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xp1337 09/15/21 4:51:19 PM #409:	My eyes nearly rolled out of my skull when I saw the author was Frum but I kept reading anyway. The first bit is the same kind of vanilla "realization" a lot of neocons went through when they realized that the base of the Republican party didn't support it because of the free trade, unfettered capitalism, nation-building, limited government ideals they professed to have but wanted the theocratic authoritarianism which had been teased to them over the past 40-50 years (and whose roots stretch back before the founding of the country but that's another conversation.) But then the rest of it, which is the meat of the article, is just an extremely thinly veiled "Well, Dems, we're part of your coalition now and in order to keep us you had best acquiesce to our demands and move to the right towards that theoretical Republican party we thought we had back there." I'm not even really exaggerating in that either. There's a push in there for classic Republican pitches on issues couched grossly in false equivalence - and explicitly - with the anti-science, anti-vax, climate change denialism of the right. And perhaps most grossly at all, it's all framed in the same self-aggrandizement they had and lectured to the nation back when they actually mostly held the reins of the GOP. Literally calling themselves (Never Trumpers) a "moralistic" impulse with the implication that the GOP excised them under Trump (again, as others have said this is false - this is the natural end result of the GOP's trajectory) and they're explicitly looking to implant themselves in the Democratic party now and guide it to a better place. There's absolutely zero self-reflection in that piece. It almost goes there in the beginning when trying to analyze how they got purged from the GOP but then ignores any attempt to actually go in-depth on what exactly went on there and moves straight into trying to find a new host body in the Dems with the exact same playbook. ~~~ As for what's going on today... House Energy and Commerce committee had 3 Dems vote against drug price negotiation language in the reconciliation bill and defeat it there. Pharma started taking a victory lap and then Ways and Means put in their own language over in their committee lmao. When people want to talk about corrupt/corporate Dems they should probably start with ones like those 3 who did the bidding of lobbyists. Leadership actually immediately did the right thing here in going "hell no" and keeping up the fight. ~~~ As for the GOP... https://twitter.com/NYTnickc/status/1438154169043628035 PA Senate committee voted to approve 17 subpoenas for the personal information on every voter in the state, including partial SSNs and Driver's License numbers. All as part of their "investigation" into the 2020 election. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:958088148] in Politics C... [t:79627991]...</cite> <quote>My eyes nearly rolled out of my skull when I saw the author was Frum but I kept reading anyway. The first bit is the same kind of vanilla "realization" a lot of neocons went through when they realized that the base of the Republican party didn't support it because of the free trade, unfettered capitalism, nation-building, limited government ideals they professed to have but wanted the theocratic authoritarianism which had been teased to them over the past 40-50 years (and whose roots stretch back before the founding of the country but that's another conversation.) But then the rest of it, which is the meat of the article, is just an extremely thinly veiled "Well, Dems, we're part of your coalition now and in order to keep us you had best acquiesce to our demands and move to the right towards that theoretical Republican party we thought we had back there." I'm not even really exaggerating in that either. There's a push in there for classic Republican pitches on issues couched grossly in false equivalence - and explicitly - with the anti-science, anti-vax, climate change denialism of the right. And perhaps most grossly at all, it's all framed in the same self-aggrandizement they had and lectured to the nation back when they actually mostly held the reins of the GOP. Literally calling themselves (Never Trumpers) a "moralistic" impulse with the implication that the GOP excised them under Trump (again, as others have said this is false - this is the natural end result of the GOP's trajectory) and they're explicitly looking to implant themselves in the Democratic party now and guide it to a better place. There's absolutely zero self-reflection in that piece. It almost goes there in the beginning when trying to analyze how they got purged from the GOP but then ignores any attempt to actually go in-depth on what exactly went on there and moves straight into trying to find a new host body in the Dems with the exact same playbook. ~~~ As for what's going on today... House Energy and Commerce committee had 3 Dems vote against drug price negotiation language in the reconciliation bill and defeat it there. Pharma started taking a victory lap and then Ways and Means put in their own language over in their committee lmao. When people want to talk about corrupt/corporate Dems they should probably start with ones like those 3 who did the bidding of lobbyists. Leadership actually immediately did the right thing here in going "hell no" and keeping up the fight. ~~~ As for the GOP... https://twitter.com/NYTnickc/status/1438154169043628035 PA Senate committee voted to approve 17 subpoenas for the personal information on every voter in the state, including partial SSNs and Driver's License numbers. All as part of their "investigation" into the 2020 election. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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