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| Topic | Tales of Arise comes out next week...are you getting it? |
| Entity13 09/06/21 4:25:17 PM #46: | Bulbasaur posted... i started with abyss because thats the game that made the series popular. not to mention that everything before it is not even very well known I'm pretty sure Symphonia was the one that made the series popular in the west, and Abyss was one that rode the early stages of that worldwide popularity. Legendia tried to ride it too, but... I sleep. Bulbasaur posted... phantasia was always an obscure SNES game completely overshadowed by final fantasy, destiny is a niche PS1 game, destiny 2 never even got localized, eternia is what got called destiny 2 in its localization. The SNES version of Phantasia met with the same fate as the first Star Ocean. Good game, but the publishers and localization teams were looking at the next gen consoles at that point. Namco didn't really put a lot of effort into marketing the Tales games until Symphonia succeeded by some miracle. Eternia, it's true, did get called Destiny II before Destiny II was actually made, but then that was rectified with the PSP version of Eternia. I don't think Namco cared enough to let us have the actual Destiny II. Heck, the only reason I have the PSP Eternia is because I got lucky with finding it in a used game store, because the US didn't get many copies of it. <_< Bulbasaur posted... aside from that, the rest of the tales games are spinoffs, not mainline titles, which is why they were omitted considering I specifically said mainline titles. Right... which is why I wasn't bringing up the non-mainline titles. I will say, however, that Innocence, Hearts, and Graces were mainline and excluded from your list of scores, and we never talked about those nor Rebirth (which followed Symphonia). If you were to redo the list of scores to include those three games that came out after Abyss, then Zestiria might, maybe, sit on a higher rank? Bulbasaur posted... also, everything before abyss wasn't very well received to start with, and that's not saying much for the spinoffs either. Symphonia (2003) was before the Abyss (2005). It was quite-well received, even as people continued to make fun of one particular scene to the point of excluding the context behind it. Bulbasaur posted... but sure, if you want to compare everything except the games that scored lower than Zestiria, for some reason, then sure, Zestiria isn't very good. Way to misread what I said. Going forward, I expect better of you. The reason I said "excluding the Abyss," is because the very same post with those scores listed also said, and I am paraphrasing here, "Zestiria is one of the highest scores since the Abyss." When someone says the best or worst since a particular past example, I discount the particular past example as if it were the ground level of a building with so many floors above it. My statement was that the actual, not-even-first-grade-level math did not match what had been said. Abyss was the second lowest given by the provided scores, but also the default point given; Zestiria was literally listed as the second lowest when you discount Abyss, but third lowest of seven when you include it. So let's take a step away from this moot point of the since clause for a moment. The third lowest of seven, or second lowest of six, either way, is not even halfway to the top. That is not "one of the best" unless you did count the spin-offs, which we've established are not part of this count. Going by the same metric you are using of omitting the spin-offs, and looking solely at critic scores, such a position is, by definition, one of the worst. Feelings had nothing to do with what I said. Does that make things clearer for you? --- ... Copied to Clipboard! |
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