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StifledSilence
08/22/21 8:26:56 PM
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KBM: On a list full of star-studded casts, Tombstone might feature the most stacked cast list of them all. The screenplay has some flaws, but it does a remarkable job of balancing its characters' screentime so as to never become overly confusing. It's also just a really fun watch one of the most purely enjoyable movies on this list, never feeling either too long or underdeveloped. It would take way too long to list all the performances I love in this movie, but Val Kilmer is a standout among standouts as Doc Holliday. Just a damn good time.

Inviso: Its weird watching this after watching My Darling Clementine, because they portray the same general version of events in startlingly different fashions. There are so many big names in this movie though: Kurt Russell, Val Kilmer, Michael Biehn, Bill Paxton, and Sam Elliott, and they just add an aura of intensity to the proceedings. I love the fact that, rather than being the beacon of righteousness hed eventually become, Wyatt Earp and his brothers are kinda grifters at the start of the film, rapidly ascending the social hierarchy of their new home. But you cant really teach an old dog new tricks, and as bad guys go too wild in the town, the lawmen feel the need to step in and take the reins. Its all great, especially just how ruthless everyone is in the movie. I couldve done with less of the romantic subplots, because the female characters felt very poorly-written overall, but the action and general gunfight mentality was solid and enjoyable.

Karo: Another tale about the Earp brothers and the events that transpired in the most unfortunately named town in arizona.
Rather then ending at the gunfight at the okay corral as usual, this movie ops to go on for another 50 minutes and the results are a mixed bag. There are even parts where it turns into some bizarre slasher movie with unseen killers and flashes of spooky lightning.
The story seems choppy and weirdly edited, particularly later on. The film seems so dedicated to historical accuracy that the flow of the story seems hamstrung.
I can't put my finger on anything movie-ruining about how things go, it just feels wrong and unnatural somehow, I dunno.

CoolCly: Overall, this movie is a gigantic mess. Theres more characters than Avengers Endgame but no time to figure out who they are.

Random thoughts:
The initial exposition dump on Earp, Doc Holiday, and the Cowboys is just straight up terrible.

The initial shootout of the cowboys attacking the wedding was lame. As a show of brutality it was fine, but I hate it when a group of gunsliners lines up against another and they all open fire at eachother for awhile and one is all dead and the other side is fine to show how good they are. Doesn't make any sense.

Earp throwing out that jerk dealer was a great scene.

Doc saying he hates the dude who flips his pistol is a tense moment.

Wyatt Earp asking if his opium wife is doing okay and she giggles strangely with literal tears staining the corners of her eyes and he just is like "oh okay great, so anyways lets just travel forever how about it" is so strange. Like, he's not just oblivious to her troubles, its like they aren't in the same scene together...

Earp staying out of the issues with the cowboys and letting the red shirt guy shoot up the town, telling the Marshall to let it go, and letting him walk out there alone and die, and THEN suddenly deciding to put on his marshall hat and protect the cowboy from the mob makes no sense.

The Earps end up picking this fight more than the cowboys, despite them being portrayed as literal clowns that shoot people all the time.

The Sheriff getting cucked by Wyatt was meh.

Wyatt seems like a fucking maniac at the train station. It seems almost strange that the three defectors would follow him when he's so crazy. Then they just run around murdering people even though thats why those guys three left the cowboys?

The shootout where he just walks out into the fire into the water while being shot at from all sides was dumb as hell.

I love how Ringo is so confident he'll kill Earp, but when he's genuinely afraid of Doc when he appears.

Overall - great performance by Kurt Russell and an even better performance from Val Kilmer. But this movie was a gigantic mess. There's just too many characters, and most of them don't go anywhere. Despite the two leads having such strong performances, I think this is a worse movie than the other Tombstone story on the list.

6.5/10

Poke: Val Kilmer as Doc Holliday steals the show because hes so awesome. And the friendship is tight with Wyatt Earp. Delightful.

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