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wwinterj25 posted...

I mean you have to understand how that post reads and what it implies.

His implication seems to be towards the historical childbearing age which skewed way younger, which is why shows like GoT wound up aging characters because framing the show within the context of historical accuracy makes modern viewers incredibly uncomfortable because the paradigm has gradually shifted.

ReturnOfFa posted...

No sir, I do not need to dispute puberty in order to be able to dispute the 12-year old body being 'ready' for pregnancy. Defining a 12-year old as 'ready' for pregnancy ignores reality - that not all 12 - year olds will even be able to conceive (you mention puberty, have all girls had their period by 12???? likely most but not all by far + that is not the only thing that prepares the female reproductive system to be able to bear a child). Besides that, they are nowhere near the optimum level of development to carry a child. Do you or anyone seriously think that a 12-year old's body is ready to bear a child? Besides the physical limits here, we're also going to completely ignore the psychological limits? Oh, and also the most problematic part that most people seem to take issue with - impregnating a 12 year old? That's why everyone is so pissed off and grossed out. I decided to go into some mind-numbing detail because Sunny won't, because he's a coward.

That's a generally fallacious argument (riddled with bad faith assertions, including the fact that many girls who would have difficulty at early ages would *still* have difficulty at later ages, if they were able at all) that seems to rely more on modern social moors than actual biology. But at the same, I just don't care enough to break down where your arguments fall flat, particularly since I agree that in this day and age that preteens -- and teens in general (and even 18+ is iffy) -- shouldn't be getting pregnant within the current developed world. However, Sunny's assertion wasn't about the current developed world, so it doesn't line up there.

But from technical side, Sunny's argument reflects a general reality because we *have* seen stories about it, and he was discussing the idea from an absurd hypothetical stance that doesn't bear much relation to anything in our world today, which he was likely only doing to make an exaggerated point about our modern idea of adolescence (where adulthood has one from 14-16 to closer to 24 or 25, or even 30).


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