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Topic	Does society need to eliminate driving?
adjl 08/10/21 4:13:35 PM #41:	Zeus posted... However, a commute only has so much impact on traffic. Roads are all but entirely designed around commutes. Morning/evening rush hours represent the greatest volume of traffic a route needs to be able to handle consistently, and the vast majority of the vehicles comprising that traffic are single-occupant personal vehicles. Roads that are able to handle commuter traffic are generally pretty empty at other times. Now, switching half of the workforce to WFH would not simply reduce traffic by half. It wouldn't affect commercial traffic, the relatively small handful of HOV's would only remove one vehicle from the road for 2-7 workers, there would still be people driving around during rush hour for non-commuting purposes (such as shopping on a day off)... That said, it would nonetheless make a huge impact on traffic. Parking, however, improves dramatically with fewer people driving to work. Get half the workforce working from home, and you are going to see roughly half as much demand for parking space in cities, since cars being abandoned for eight hours a day is the primary driver for that demand. Krazy_Kirby posted... bet a self-driving car would never go over the speed limit, even on a deserted highway w/ zero other cars in sight Oh no, you might arrive 2-5 minutes later! Such horror! In practice, with self-driving cars dominating and defining how society drives, blanket speed limits wouldn't really be a thing. AI's are capable of assessing the safest maximum speed for a given situation much better than humans are, as well as being able to handle themselves at higher speeds than humans can (by virtue of having vastly faster reflexes). Toss in the ability to communicate with each other to identify the need to slow down long before it's actually seen, plus the elimination of traffic lights and other such controls, and you'll generally see faster travel times in an autonomous system than in one where you're held back by our slow monkey brains. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:956960319] in Does socie... [t:79605592]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted... </cite> <quote>However, a commute only has so much impact on traffic.</quote> Roads are all but entirely designed around commutes. Morning/evening rush hours represent the greatest volume of traffic a route needs to be able to handle consistently, and the vast majority of the vehicles comprising that traffic are single-occupant personal vehicles. Roads that are able to handle commuter traffic are generally pretty empty at other times. Now, switching half of the workforce to WFH would not simply reduce traffic by half. It wouldn't affect commercial traffic, the relatively small handful of HOV's would only remove one vehicle from the road for 2-7 workers, there would still be people driving around during rush hour for non-commuting purposes (such as shopping on a day off)... That said, it would nonetheless make a huge impact on traffic. Parking, however, improves dramatically with fewer people driving to work. Get half the workforce working from home, and you are going to see roughly half as much demand for parking space in cities, since cars being abandoned for eight hours a day is the primary driver for that demand. Krazy_Kirby posted... </cite> <quote>bet a self-driving car would never go over the speed limit, even on a deserted highway w/ zero other cars in sight</quote> Oh no, you might arrive 2-5 minutes later! Such horror! In practice, with self-driving cars dominating and defining how society drives, blanket speed limits wouldn't really be a thing. AI's are capable of assessing the safest maximum speed for a given situation much better than humans are, as well as being able to handle themselves at higher speeds than humans can (by virtue of having vastly faster reflexes). Toss in the ability to communicate with each other to identify the need to slow down long before it's actually seen, plus the elimination of traffic lights and other such controls, and you'll generally see faster travel times in an autonomous system than in one where you're held back by our slow monkey brains. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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