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TopicDoes society need to eliminate driving?
Zeus
08/09/21 3:24:12 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
Do the pros of self-driving vehicles outweigh the cons?

Well, I mean, that's kinda still driving >_>

That said, self-driving vehicles would generally be an improvement if not for hackers/governments/sentient AIs overriding the controls to murder people. Outside of that, the faster self-driving cars become the norm, the better.

DrPrimemaster posted...
I wonder how much of an impact remote working will have on car use going forward.

Only a certain number of jobs can be done remotely, and most jobs that can be done remotely still aren't done remotely. However, a commute only has so much impact on traffic.

faramir77 posted...
Modern cities, especially in North America, are designed around car ownership. It's one of the biggest mismanagement of resources in human history.

Well, I mean, they were originally designed around horse & buggy use I should imagine and cars just replaced those >_>

That or it's smaller areas evolving over time where you can't possibly the infrastructure built before you know it's going to be a bigger place.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
But even worse than cities, the entire concept of the suburbs revolves almost entirely around cars. There are plenty of places in the US where you will pretty much die without a car of your own. To change that, you would have to radically restructure both the infrastructure and economy of the world in ways that are borderline impossible without causing a dynamic crisis.

You could probably change some of that with zoning but yeah, suburbs much more than urban areas require driving.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
It's part of why even pro-driverless car advocates have admitted in the past that a full driverless future is probably unlikely (at least in our lifetimes), and that the more likely scenario is a focus on driverless public transport. A slow incremental changeover would probably take decades to get to the point of eliminating personal transport entirely, but it's also about the only way it would ever feasibly work.

Uh, what? Kinda feels like things are being conflated? Because self-driving cars doesn't mean "no personal transit" and getting to a driverless future wouldn't be entirely hard to do, once we have the technology, although the amount of subsidies will vary on how quickly you do it. If you're doing it over a 30-year span (which is still within *most* PotDers' lifetimes, you'd probably only need subsidies right at the end to help people buy used self-driving cars who can't afford them (ie, final five years) when a ban is going into place on manual driving cars.

Granted, that assumes you could pass an initial law mandating that all new cars sold in the US are self-driving.

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