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wydrah posted...

While I agree that class struggle is ultimately the more significant struggle, I also acknowledge that white supremacy is real. The world was colonized by Europeans, so yes, European hegemony is real. And obvious?

Why can't both struggles be fought?

Also, why is the dominant culture in China at all relevant to white supremacism in the United States?

Because that's not true.

Firstly you are taking a viewpoint that can ONLY exist in a vacuum. For example, Japan was never colonized by Europe and, instead, became it's own colonial power dominating much of China and the Pacific Ocean (amazingly brutally I might add) yet no acknowledgement is made about such things.

Secondly, it completely ignores basically any form of history. Since, otherwise, it would also need to acknowledge that Europe was, effectively, colonized by the Muslims (Spain), Mongols, and Ottomans at various points among others. Or that not every European power was a colonial one (Poland). Or that Europeans HAD a united identity that was even slightly racially aligned especially along modern, AMERICAN, axis.

Thirdly, it's a gross misrepresentation of reality as it's presenting a class struggle as a racial one. That's simply not what's happening and, assuming the absolute best, is something that ONLY applies to one nation in one specific viewpoint.

Fourthly, it is horrifically offensive to ethnic groups who have also suffered at the hands of the very things you say white people are doing, yet were of the wrong skin color, and you are now saying they are the same as their oppressors BECAUSE of their skin color. Go up to an Irish man and say he's racially, morally, religiously, and so-forth identical to an Englishman and therefore not only never been oppressed but is an oppressor. See how well that goes.

And FINALLY, this whole thing, it's a complete, total, monstrous, slap in the face to any person of European descent who ISN'T racist! People who have formed close bonds and friendships with PoC's, possibly due to things such as mutual suffering, poverty, persecution, and so-forth, are being told, by a woman who admits to being uncomfortable around black people no less, that they're JUST as bad as she is and need to admit it and get over it. I can't think of anything that would make me more enraged than being told that I am in the same group of racists that she is, despite living my life surrounded by african americans, native americans, hispanics, asians, and so-forth, living a lifestyle of the poor, with family who were expunged BY the nazi's AND the communists AND were displaced by the English.

That book isn't worth the fire needed to burn it. That woman isn't worth the air she breaths. She's nothing more than a racist spewing racist ideas being co-opted by marxists who feast on strife for their own power. If you honestly think the solution to a problem like discrimination is MORE discrimination then might I suggest replacing water with gasoline in fire hoses or that the solution to fascists is more fascism, just against fascists?

History isn't some neat little package like whatever your college professor told you it was. The Irish were treated like garbage in America despite 'being white' and the same happened to groups like the Polish and Italians. Heck, Columbus Day, the day so many people rally against now, came about because Italians were being killed and they wanted to try and make some unified connection between them and the rest of America. Not because he enslaved people or whatever dumb reason the haters think; but because they wanted to promote UNITY between Americans and Italians.

So, instead of talking about this racist woman, you instead try to champion someone like Crispus Attucks? Or elevate a figure like John Henry to the same level as Johnny Appleseed or Davey Crockett? The multitudes of blacks who fought for the Union, or in WWI or WWII in spite of racism? Or in modern times, Daryl Davis who got multiple KKK members to leave and change their ways by befriending them?

Because otherwise you're stuck promoting a terrible ideology made by a racist woman and effectively flipping the damned middle finger at me every time I see a nazi/soviet bullet hole in my family tree.

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