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Lokarin posted...

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/29/carbon-emissions-americans-social-cost

....carbon dioxide doesn't have a smell.

You're getting pretty close to my ignore list these days.

zebatov posted...

Whenever I see someone supporting Tesla, or the GND in general online, I always make sure to ask them how many kids they have. Very few say zero.

If the GND refers to AOC's trash propaganda, I think most supporters I know don't have kids, although a few have had kids lately and, honestly, they have more problems being the kids of those parents than anything else.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

The other thing a lot of people forget is the sheer size of the US, and how absolutely shit mass transit is in most places. Cars are pretty much a necessity here in ways that they aren't in other countries. So we're pretty much going to generate far more waste in that respect than most other places, regardless of whether we're using combustion engines or electric.

This.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

And most of this ultimately doesn't matter if you focus most of your attention on the individual level rather than the corporate level. Outlawing plastic bags at supermarkets or pushing people to buy electric cars doesn't really help if companies are still dumping tons of waste into the environment and there's tons of fuel being used on airplanes and trucks for cargo transport. It's a scenario where we need to change from the top down more than from the ground up.

Also this. It also turns people off from environmental shit, and is part of what got me out of it (as well as learning that so many of the claims were flat-out false)


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