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This is part two of my anti-natalism topic. Seeing as no one on this board was able to come up with a legitimate counter in the time it has been up I figured it was time to move on to this since I've proven that bringing new people into existence is immoral. So this topic has nothing to do with those who might exist but those who do exist, you and I.

"But why do I need to justify my existence?" you might be asking, well honestly you don't need to, but it is a matter of morality I'm looking at once again. To justify something means to defend it by proving that it is reasonable or morally correct. Morality dictates that he who causes unjustified harm to another is wrong to do so and those who cause harm regularly or in great amounts are cruel and immoral. There is some leeway with that rule however in that sometimes causing suffering for a greater good can be accepted, the greater good being the justification. I don't think many would disagree with that.

What most people refuse to admit however is that simply by existing they cause untold amounts of harm and suffering to living things. It is a universal sin, an orginal sin, no human is exempt no matter how righteous they might try to act. All life forms stand a top a pile of corpses, and the apex predators stand on piles of corpses made from piles of corpses. Humanity is by far the most deadly apex predator to ever exist. I'm not just talking about things like meat consumption either, our society rises only by propping it up on more death and suffering, human death and suffering more so than other animals.

Every single facet of your life is infused with the unheard or unheeded cries of suffering. Unless a reason can be provided that proves the suffering caused to others is reasonable despite its perpetuity and strength there is only one conclusion to come to.

So I ask those of you who have accepted my challenge, what is your proof of validity, your reasoning, your end goal that will justify the pain you cause?