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Topic	I'm an anti-natalist.
Reigning_King 07/25/21 8:06:03 PM #265:	Mead posted... It isnt something that can be factually proven one way or another. There will always be suffering but for many people there are some things in life that are so good, whether its people that we love and feel privileged to get to know, or just aspects of living life that bring joy and satisfaction. Things that make life worth living despite all of the pain and bad things that can happen along the way. In my life I have been much happier by trying not to focus on the pain and struggles when possible, but dealing with the best way I know how while focusing on the positive things that I have going for me and just trying to spread some kindness and laughter when I can. Cool so we agree with each other. The bolded bit is all that I was concerned with particular this back and forth. A bit off topic but something that hasn't been brought up that I thought of because of the suicide stats that were brought up is that these guys seem to be under the impression that one day technology will advance to the point where there is no suffering (I've written examples of these sci-fi utopia to show how ridiculous the idea of ever eliminating all suffering even with god level tech would be) but a fact that hasn't been brought up is that suicide and depression rates are much higher in more technologically advanced society and time periods. I wonder how that plays into their vision of better tech reducing suffering to zero. Also that any type of tech used for good can be used for evil, even if we invent a matrix like simulation device that can give infinite pleasure why couldn't the same thing be used to give someone infinite pain as well? SunWuKung420 posted... #242 and #243 are hilariously wrong. You disappoint me SWK, I thought you were better than that. If it's so wrong why not explain why? I mean it can't possibly be that hard if it's so erroneous. You can see from my posts itt that I'm willing to read and respond to any even half assed arguments, I never immediately write off things like you've (and many others) have so rudely done with me. If my post made you realize how empty and worthless that quote you posted was and you couldn't come up with a way to defend it, it would have been better for you to just not post again or hell, maybe admit that and learn not to buy into stuff like that? <cite>Reigning_King posted [p:956458296] in I'm an ant... [t:79573893]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>It isnt something that can be factually proven one way or another. There will always be suffering but for many people there are some things in life that are so good, whether its people that we love and feel privileged to get to know, or just aspects of living life that bring joy and satisfaction. Things that make life worth living despite all of the pain and bad things that can happen along the way. In my life I have been much happier by trying not to focus on the pain and struggles when possible, but dealing with the best way I know how while focusing on the positive things that I have going for me and just trying to spread some kindness and laughter when I can.</quote> Cool so we agree with each other. The bolded bit is all that I was concerned with particular this back and forth. A bit off topic but something that hasn't been brought up that I thought of because of the suicide stats that were brought up is that these guys seem to be under the impression that one day technology will advance to the point where there is no suffering (I've written examples of these sci-fi utopia to show how ridiculous the idea of ever eliminating all suffering even with god level tech would be) but a fact that hasn't been brought up is that suicide and depression rates are much higher in more technologically advanced society and time periods. I wonder how that plays into their vision of better tech reducing suffering to zero. Also that any type of tech used for good can be used for evil, even if we invent a matrix like simulation device that can give infinite pleasure why couldn't the same thing be used to give someone infinite pain as well? SunWuKung420 posted... </cite> <quote>#242 and #243 are hilariously wrong.</quote>You disappoint me SWK, I thought you were better than that. If it's so wrong why not explain why? I mean it can't possibly be that hard if it's so erroneous. You can see from my posts itt that I'm willing to read and respond to any even half assed arguments, I never immediately write off things like you've (and many others) have so rudely done with me. If my post made you realize how empty and worthless that quote you posted was and you couldn't come up with a way to defend it, it would have been better for you to just not post again or hell, maybe admit that and learn not to buy into stuff like that? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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