Poll of the Day > I'm an anti-natalist.

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 9:17:21 AM
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I think procreation is immoral, unethical and should be avoided.
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Sarcasthma
07/20/21 9:27:20 AM
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More traveling across America topics.

Less of these topics.

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Far-Queue
07/20/21 9:30:32 AM
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Sure seems like a glut of shitposters lately.

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 9:31:18 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
More traveling across America topics.

Less of these topics.
I'm done with that. I've been laying in a cheap motel room up by the Canadian border for the last week, mostly reading. Plus I can make topics about whatever I want.

Far-Queue posted...
Sure seems like a glut of shitposters lately.
How am I a shitposter? Just because I have an unpopular and unconventional point of view? In fact I would call your post much more shitty than mine just on the tone alone.
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kind9
07/20/21 9:36:47 AM
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I feel like you have to be on the extreme end of nihilism to actually advocate anti-natalism. All the anti-natalists I've talked to were miserable people.

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Sarcasthma
07/20/21 9:38:46 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
I'm done with that.
That's too bad. Your stories were pretty interesting, and these topics just seem like you trying to troll people.

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Far-Queue
07/20/21 9:43:11 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
How am I a s***poster?
This topic screams "angsty acne'd edgelord" bruh

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 9:43:24 AM
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Sarcasthma posted...
That's too bad. Your stories were pretty interesting, and these topics just seem like you trying to troll people.
I literally wrote the title and OP in the most straight forward way possible, such a simple statement without any room for misinterpretation or jokes would be poor trolling if that is what I was going for. It isn't though as I'm dead serious.
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Reigning_King
07/20/21 9:47:29 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
This topic screams "angsty acne'd edgelord" bruh
As an anti-natalist any argument I get into on the matter is akin to a single man trying to siege a castle as far as how lopsided the scales are in the favor of my opponent from the weight of popular opinion and general human psychology backing them up (although that says nothing about which side is correct in the end).

It's telling that the only counters you can throw are petty insults even when you have the overwhelming advantage. Dismissing my position with incredulity is not an actual counter.
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SomeUsername529
07/20/21 9:48:10 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
I literally wrote the title and OP in the most straight forward way possible, such a simple statement without any room for misinterpretation or jokes would be poor trolling if that is what I was going for. It isn't though as I'm dead serious.
Then who gives a shit? Staking out a dumb fake controversial stance with no substance and then immediately dropping the "I'm sort of joking though, if anyone takes it really seriously" to run away is barely above spamming gibberish.
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Far-Queue
07/20/21 9:48:55 AM
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"Dead. Serious."

So much edge lmao

Is this what happens to a brain when you can't get laid?

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 9:52:18 AM
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SomeUsername529 posted...
Then who gives a shit? Staking out a dumb fake controversial stance with no substance and then immediately dropping the "I'm sort of joking though, if anyone takes it really seriously" to run away is barely above spamming gibberish.
I think you read my post incorrectly, I said I'm not joking. I also said that I made the OP as straight forward and simple as possible, as opposed to typing out a huge essay, to avoid confusion but it seems I failed on that front.
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Far-Queue
07/20/21 9:53:13 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
it seems I failed on that front.
You're failing on a lot of fronts dawg

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 9:55:31 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
"Dead. Serious."

So much edge lmao

Is this what happens to a brain when you can't get laid?
If the mere mention of the subject and having to maybe think outside of your narrow mental borders bothers you so much and you have nothing constructive to add then go ahead and leave the thread, no one is forcing you to participate. As I said from the start your behavior is much more akin to a shitposter than mine is, at least itt.
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Kotenks
07/20/21 9:55:35 AM
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I find that perspective fascinating. I've listened to and read David Benatar's thoughts on the topic of procreation.

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Sarcasthma
07/20/21 9:56:17 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
I literally wrote the title and OP in the most straight forward way possible, such a simple statement without any room for misinterpretation or jokes would be poor trolling if that is what I was going for. It isn't though as I'm dead serious.
That's fine, but don't act surprised when your topics keep ending up like this one.

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Far-Queue
07/20/21 9:59:25 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
It's telling that the only counters you can throw are petty insults
  • Literally insults all of humanity by claiming they shouldn't be allowed to continue as a species
  • Gets his pwecious feewings hurt being called an edgelord
Lmao

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KodyKeir
07/20/21 10:01:25 AM
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kind9 posted...
All the anti-natalists I've talked to were miserable people.
Really, cause the ones I have talked to were pretty happy they did not have children and extremely happy at the money they were not spending on said children.

kind9 posted...
I feel like you have to be on the extreme end of nihilism to actually advocate anti-natalism.

You're forgetting reasons like misanthropy, and environmentalism; lots of reason to be against creating more children.

Reigning_King posted...
I think procreation is immoral, unethical and should be avoided.

But are you a sit on your hands type, or more a take direct action, anti natalist?

And then to what degree: are you a chronic masturbator or do you go around kicking guys in the nuts with your steel toed shoes on.

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Veedrock-
07/20/21 10:03:35 AM
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"I am king and I do decree...!"



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Reigning_King
07/20/21 10:05:35 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
Literally insults all of humanity by claiming they shouldn't be allowed to continue as a species
It isn't an insult nor am I saying that people shouldn't be allowed to have children. You seem to have a gross misunderstanding about the subject matter you've felt it necessary to involve yourself in.
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Veedrock-
07/20/21 10:09:09 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
It isn't an insult
Immoral and unethical aren't insults?

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Far-Queue
07/20/21 10:13:23 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
You seem to have a gross misunderstanding about the subject matter you've felt it necessary to involve yourself in.
"I have an asshole opinion with nothing to back it up, so that makes me an expert on the matter." - RK, edgelord Cum Laude, 2021

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kind9
07/20/21 10:13:35 AM
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KodyKeir posted...
Really, cause the ones I have talked to were pretty happy they did not have children and extremely happy at the money they were not spending on said children.
I've only interacted with a few of them and yeah they were absolutely miserable. One person I talked to was in constant pain from an illness.

KodyKeir posted...
lots of reason to be against creating more children.
But this philosophy is about ending mankind, is it not? Maybe we can slow down on making babies, but do we have to stop altogether?

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 10:14:40 AM
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KodyKeir posted...
But are you a sit on your hands type, or more a take direct action, anti natalist?
Realistically I'm well aware that nothing I say or do will have even a minuscule impact on the reproductive habits of mankind so I usually keep it to myself honestly.

Veedrock- posted...
Immoral and unethical aren't insults?
Wrong part of the post. The "insult" I supposedly made was claiming humanity shouldn't be allowed to propagate, which is a claim I never actually made, hence no insult.
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KodyKeir
07/20/21 10:15:27 AM
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kind9 posted...
But this philosophy is about ending mankind, is it not?
I think some go that far, but most just realize that our present state of being is unsustainable an just want a future that is sustainable.

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 10:25:10 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
"I have an asshole opinion with nothing to back it up, so that makes me an expert on the matter." - RK, edgelord Cum Laude, 2021
Fine let's start with a simple one. Three questions.
  • Would you agree or disagree that it is unethical to cause a person harm without their consent?
  • Would you agree or disagree that all human life contains some degree of harm, regardless of quantity or intensity?
  • Would you agree or disagree that an unborn person cannot consent to being born?
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Far-Queue
07/20/21 10:58:57 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
let's start with a simple one.
ur mom started with a simple one the day you were born

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Veedrock-
07/20/21 10:59:44 AM
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TC with that antiabortion rhetoric.

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kind9
07/20/21 11:04:39 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
Would you agree or disagree that it is unethical to cause a person harm without their consent?
Reigning_King posted...
Would you agree or disagree that an unborn person cannot consent to being born?
Why have the parameters changed. What do you mean "unborn person"?

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KodyKeir
07/20/21 11:05:43 AM
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Veedrock- posted...
TC with that antiabortion rhetoric.

Antinatalism antiabortion

I can see how one might think they equate with each other, but arguing against bringing more people into the world is not the same as telling teens that abstinence is the only way to avoid pregnancy. There is a moral argument to be made against having kids and it can be done with condoms and birth control.

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Far-Queue
07/20/21 11:07:06 AM
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"So I'm layin' around in a cheap motel on the border of Canada, jerkin' off to a Wikipedia article on Nazi eugenics, and I thinks to m'self, I thinks 'Self? Ya know... I thinks I might just be an anti-natalist! How's about we go tell PotD?' -'Great idea, me!'"

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shadowsword87
07/20/21 11:13:27 AM
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Aaaaah.
Back to the old Sleeping_King I see.

You never were a normal person, you just hid it.
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Reigning_King
07/20/21 11:19:26 AM
#33:


Veedrock- posted...
TC with that antiabortion rhetoric.
I'm pro abortion, although ideally the idea would be to avoid conception in the first place.

kind9 posted...
Why have the parameters changed. What do you mean "unborn person"?
The parameters changed because they are two separate questions, they don't need to be talking about the same thing.

An "unborn person" is just a potential but yet as of unrealized person.
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Reigning_King
07/20/21 11:22:42 AM
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Far-Queue posted...
"So I'm layin' around in a cheap motel on the border of Canada, jerkin' off to a Wikipedia article on Nazi eugenics, and I thinks to m'self, I thinks 'Self? Ya know... I thinks I might just be an anti-natalist! How's about we go tell PotD?' -'Great idea, me!'"
Wow, only 31 posts in and you've already realized Godwin's law, thos subject must really rub you the wrong way. Are you a parent by any chance? Well you ignored my previous questions so why would you answer that one?
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Lokarin
07/20/21 11:28:06 AM
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I'm anti-nerdalist

The nerdalinger has lingered for too long!

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Far-Queue
07/20/21 11:28:22 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
Are you a parent by any chance?
nah ur mom swallows lmao

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Kotenks
07/20/21 11:30:20 AM
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KodyKeir posted...
Antinatalism antiabortion

I can see how one might think they equate with each other, but arguing against bringing more people into the world is not the same as telling teens that abstinence is the only way to avoid pregnancy. There is a moral argument to be made against having kids and it can be done with condoms and birth control.

While some anti-abortionists are against contraceptives and/or teens having sex, that isn't a core tenent to that movement.

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kind9
07/20/21 11:36:21 AM
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Reigning_King posted...
The parameters changed because they are two separate questions, they don't need to be talking about the same thing.
Does #3 not contradict #1 though? What is consent to an "unrealized person" i.e., non-existence, and how does it compare to consent from a living, i.e., existing person? Why do you want to destroy us all? Do you want all animals to disappear?

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 11:52:50 AM
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kind9 posted...
Does #3 not contradict #1 though? What is consent to an "unrealized person" i.e., non-existence, and how does it compare to consent from a living, i.e., existing person? Why do you want to destroy us all? Do you want all animals to disappear?
As I said, they are simply two separate questions. You can think about consent for "unborn people" the same way you would moral considerations. For example, I think most people would agree that it would be cruelty towards an unborn child for them to be conceived and given birth to in a situation where they are guaranteed to die painfully or be tortured, think human experimentation or something. The cruelty of the hypothetically is apparent and acknowledgeable but unrealized until such a thing actually happens, until the child is actually born which may not happen at all.

In that same way you can say that although they don't exist and may never exist, a hypothetical person who could exist would not be able to consent to being born. All of the humans who have ever existed were once merely hypotheticaland if you ask around I doubt you'll find anyone (sane) who will tell you they did consent to their birth (regardless of how they feel about being born).
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Veedrock-
07/20/21 12:02:37 PM
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Reigning_King posted...
I'm pro abortion
Excuse me sir a fetus cannot consent to abortion.

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 12:14:17 PM
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Veedrock- posted...
Excuse me sir a fetus cannot consent to abortion.
Obviously, but it's the lesser of two evils. As I said ideally things would not get to that point.

Actually calling it an "evil" is a bit harsh unless you look at it as the failure of the parents to prevent it from happening, truthfully it's more of a blessing.
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MushroomMuncher
07/20/21 12:15:11 PM
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Reigning_King posted...
As an anti-natalist any argument I get into on the matter is akin to a single man trying to siege a castle as far as how lopsided the scales are in the favor of my opponent from the weight of popular opinion and general human psychology backing them up (although that says nothing about which side is correct in the end).

It's telling that the only counters you can throw are petty insults even when you have the overwhelming advantage. Dismissing my position with incredulity is not an actual counter.
How many 5 dollar words did you need to google in order to make this sentence

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 12:20:25 PM
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MushroomMuncher posted...
How many 5 dollar words did you need to google in order to make this sentence
The only word in that post that your average 5th grader might not know is incredulity, I'm sorry I thought the minimum age to be posting here was 13.
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MushroomMuncher
07/20/21 12:21:46 PM
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Reigning_King posted...
The only word in that post that your average 5th grader might not know is incredulity, I'm sorry I thought the minimum age to be posting here was 13.
5th graders don't talk like that, nobody talks like that outside the internet. Talk like a normal person and then we'll go from there

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 12:28:40 PM
#45:


MushroomMuncher posted...
5th graders don't talk like that, nobody talks like that outside the internet. Talk like a normal person and then we'll go from there
If you had any difficulty understanding that post because of your limited vocabulary, you should probably leave this topic as I'm not sure there's anything for you here.
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KodyKeir
07/20/21 12:36:56 PM
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MushroomMuncher posted...
nobody talks like that outside the internet.
MISTER Nobody, please and thankyou

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Reigning_King posted...
The only word in that post that your average 5th grader might not know is incredulity,

a good sampling of adults too, from my own personal experience in using it in everyday conversation.

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MushroomMuncher
07/20/21 12:56:41 PM
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Reigning_King posted...
If you had any difficulty understanding that post because of your limited vocabulary, you should probably leave this topic as I'm not sure there's anything for you here.
Who said I had difficulty understanding it? I just don't like to hold conversations with AI generated posts

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DirtBasedSoap
07/20/21 1:09:42 PM
#48:


Far-Queue posted...
"Dead. Serious."

So much edge lmao

Is this what happens to a brain when you can't get laid?
lmao

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Reigning_King
07/20/21 2:22:43 PM
#49:


MushroomMuncher posted...
Who said I had difficulty understanding it? I just don't like to hold conversations with AI generated posts
...Sucks to be you if you don't like how I write my posts? Man, what a strong foundation you all have and still with the insults and irrelevant nonsense like using multiple posts to complain that my grammar is too "robotic" or whatever (not even bad or difficult to understand, just a pure style critique).

I'm still waiting on someone to answer the three very simple questions I posed in post #26.

DirtBasedSoap posted...
lmao
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MushroomMuncher
07/20/21 3:00:28 PM
#50:


Reigning_King posted...
...Sucks to be you if you don't like how I write my posts? Man, what a strong foundation you all have and still with the insults and irrelevant nonsense like using multiple posts to complain that my grammar is too "robotic" or whatever (not even bad or difficult to understand, just a pure style critique).
your posts can't be too robotic if you ARE a robot

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