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LinkMarioSamus 07/24/21 5:53:21 AM #52:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Can we please kill this fucking meme that Trump had good foreign policy? He didn't. The Trump admin's foreign policy was mostly characterized by: - weakening our ties to allies - reaching out to become closer to authoritarian regimes (most of which didn't even stick because Trump would piss them off later) - trade embargos for nebulous reasons - supporting foreign coups - literally everything that happened (and still is) at the US-Mexico border - yelling VERY LOUDLY about how you're not a warmonger while drone strikes increase and the state "subtly" tries to manipulate Iran into a war Please enlighten me as to what is good about this (don't, it's rhetorical) If you want to argue that Biden's foreign policy is largely a continuation of Trump's then sure, that's mostly true and the improvements are generally so marginal that I don't really care to argue about them literally being the same. But please stop acting like Trump's was GOOD and Biden is worse. I heard that even some of Trump's biggest detractors admitted aspects of his foreign policy were good. Though that probably really just came down to not starting any new wars, which as I said sounds like Trump only doing it because he knew it would make him look good. That describes his presidency in a nutshell and is a big reason why the pandemic exposed his administration's weaknesses in the worst way, to the point conservatives had to do everything in their power to cover it up. Regarding the election, I do however think that Biden did a poor job of spreading the word during campaigning and that he took it seemingly for granted that Trump would get anti-voted to hell. He was right but depending on your opponent's weakness is still dangerous. The problem in this case is that conservatives probably let the 2016 election victory get to their heads and completely ignored Trump's deficiencies as a candidate which hurt him even back then. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders? <cite>LinkMarioSamus posted [p:956410309] in Politics C... [t:79576641]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted... </cite> <quote>Can we please kill this fucking meme that Trump had good foreign policy? He didn't. The Trump admin's foreign policy was mostly characterized by: - weakening our ties to allies - reaching out to become closer to authoritarian regimes (most of which didn't even stick because Trump would piss them off later) - trade embargos for nebulous reasons - supporting foreign coups - literally everything that happened (and still is) at the US-Mexico border - yelling VERY LOUDLY about how you're not a warmonger while drone strikes increase and the state "subtly" tries to manipulate Iran into a war Please enlighten me as to what is good about this (don't, it's rhetorical) If you want to argue that Biden's foreign policy is largely a continuation of Trump's then sure, that's mostly true and the improvements are generally so marginal that I don't really care to argue about them literally being the same. But please stop acting like Trump's was GOOD and Biden is worse.</quote> I heard that even some of Trump's biggest detractors admitted aspects of his foreign policy were good. Though that probably really just came down to not starting any new wars, which as I said sounds like Trump only doing it because he knew it would make him look good. That describes his presidency in a nutshell and is a big reason why the pandemic exposed his administration's weaknesses in the worst way, to the point conservatives had to do everything in their power to cover it up. Regarding the election, I do however think that Biden did a poor job of spreading the word during campaigning and that he took it seemingly for granted that Trump would get anti-voted to hell. He was right but depending on your opponent's weakness is still dangerous. The problem in this case is that conservatives probably let the 2016 election victory get to their heads and completely ignored Trump's deficiencies as a candidate which hurt him even back then. --- Why do people act like the left is the party of social justice crusaders?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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