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Mead posted...

you really do make a bunch of bananaland statements that you insist are universal truths

I mean I say some weird stuff and have some bizarre notions too but I always understand that other people have their own life experiences which can shed more wisdom on something that I might be able to gain as opposed to only thinking about things from my perspective alone

I'll assume you mean in general and not in the post you're quoting since it's simple enough to prove that guy made two posts like I described.

As far as my claims go I'm actually very surprised that my acknowledgement of the fact that human suffering is inseparable from human existence has received the most push back. It is something 99% of the population can agree on, either I got very unlucky and the delusional 1% are over represented on this board or people are just disagreeing with me out of anger and spite. I've spent thousands of characters elaborating this simple concept but to no avail while I haven't been given a SINGLE explanation on why the idea doesn't hold true.

A much more controversial claim I've made is the one in the OP about having babies being unethical but even after 200+ posts it still hasn't been fully unpacked (props to adjl again for at giving some good counters) because of all the tangents and bickering. I feel I can prove this one if only my opponents were willing to debate properly and address the relevant points.

Hmm... the only other thing I can think of that I've claimed is a universal truth is that nonexistent people can't have preferences or feeling or the like, that they are incomparable to living humans. Unless someone believes in supernatural beings and the like I don't know how they would counter this assertion and no one has brought up anything like that. Ironically Christianity is one of the best counters imaginable to anti-natalism, if you're a Christian anyways.

That all aside can you blame me for getting short with people when I've been perpetually insulted and had my philosophy dismissively written off from the very beginning of this topic? You talk about perspectives but I lived most of my life with a pro-natal perspective, I wasn't born an anti-natalist who has never taken the time to look at the situation from the other side in my life. How many of the people replying to me are doing the same as I did for them and seriously giving my end of the argument an honest and long consideration? There was a guy at the start of the thread who shit posted here so hard he got warned for it, that's what I've had to deal with here.