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ParanoidObsessive posted...

There are also people who point out that, as much as Cornette doesn't hesitate to shit on Trump and his supporters, Jim basically conveys most of his opinions in exactly the same way Trump does. They may have radically different political perspectives, but how they choose to present those perspectives is pretty much the same. So the irony is kind of delicious for people who dislike him. He's very much a demagogue personality relying on emotion and tricks of speech to impose his world-view, and savagely insulting anyone who disagrees with him.

...it was just then that I realized PO was a Dave Meltzer mark. The only question is whether he got indoctrinated by Meltzer into this nonsense, or sought out Meltzer because he was indoctrinated.

Otherwise I responded to your earlier post (in post #20) when you were posting (post #21)

ParanoidObsessive posted...

He just has a hate-boner for modern wrestling, which kind of irrationally blinds him to anything and everything other than the fact that it isn't exactly the type of wrestling he grew up with, and is therefore evil. The sad part is, because he couches all of his criticism in over-the-top insults, abuse, and rhetoric, it actually winds up completely obscuring the moments when he does have a legitimate criticism of the modern style or presentation. He's become the boy who cried wolf. Except in this case, he's the boy who cried about blow-up dolls, invisible grenades, and pockets.

So are you defending things like invisible handgrenades? Because it's hard to tell from context.

The problem is that too many people try to claim "modern wrestling" as an excuse for bad wrestling. Bad wrestling has ALWAYS existed -- you had outlaw promotions doing nonsense decades ago, too (although it doesn't go back as far as actual wrestling, it was really when the fucking 90s hit that the industry went to hell) -- but people rightly dismissed it. The reason why wrestling is at a fraction of the business it used to be is largely *because* the stuff nowadays is mostly garbage and people who watched it even when it was starting to become a joke in the 90s laugh it off now, like fans did when they saw Chris Jericho after a NBA game.

People sadly remark that Chris Jericho is stuck doing lousy backyard wrestling now.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Of course, there's plenty of people who are absolutely convinced Cornette doesn't even actually hate AEW, as much as he's lost himself in his role of "HEEL MANAGER" and is fully aware that by shitting on it he can draw attention from its fans and remain "relevant" in modern wrestling. So he's overselling all of his opinions and deliberately trolling AEW fans. The fact that his hate for WWE is somewhat passive ("I find this boring and thus don't really watch") is different from his hate for AEW ("This enrages me and therefore I will watch all of it to find things to make fun of") comes across like a bit of a work.

He shits relentlessly on some WWE stuff with as much vitriol. The whole Fiend storyline he'd taken the piss out of.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Either way, the real problem isn't Cornette himself as much as his fans who aggressively take his gospel and preach it to anyone who'll listen, treating his every word like dogma, using all of his pet insults and nicknames as if it makes them sound clever, and generally coming across like parrots. It's the same reason I generally loathe political discussion of all kinds online - most of the people talking are just repeating soundbites they barely understand but which they've internalized because "my side" needs to win.

Most of his "pet insults" are slight plays on words that other people are going to gravitate towards, unless you honestly believe nobody else but Jim Cornette could have thought up "Dork Order" despite the fact "the Dork Knight" has been used as a riff for decades. Other remarks are just damn catchy, like Bank-Addicted Drug Robber, or descriptive like Pockets.

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