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TopicI'm an anti-natalist.
Reigning_King
07/20/21 7:41:47 PM
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adjl posted...
On what basis are you assuming this?
Any positive events in life only exist because they are the abatement of or delay negative events. Positivity can not exist without negativity existing, and yet negativity can certainly exist without positivity. This is only one aspect of the asymmetrical relationship between pleasure and pain for humans. You might have seen the common matrix posted but for anyone who hasn't it goes like this.

  1. The presence of pain is bad
  2. The presence of pleasure is good
  3. The absence of pain is good, even if that good is not enjoyed by anyone
  4. the absence of pleasure is not bad unless there is someone for whom this absence is a deprivation


So basically even if you disagree about my first point and claim that life has legitimate goods and legitimate bad, (and you make the bold claim that any sizable portion of the population has more good than bad in their life) there is still the point that nonexistence has no bads and no one is suffering the pain they would if they existed while it isn't a bad thing that they're "missing out" on the good parts of life.
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