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SeahorseCpt89 posted...

(though more memorable than most of them today).

...because most of the villains now are twist villains. It's hard to have an iconic villain if you don't know they're a villain until the final act.

Offhand, I think the last halfway decent villain we saw was Facilier, but he was basically a skinnier, male Ursula.

DistantMemory posted...

The opening number establishes that he believes himself to be righteous despite his villainy and it has him scared shitless about what might happen to him in the afterlife after killing a woman and trying to drown her baby on the steps of Notre Dame. That's already making him a more compelling character than any other villain on this list, and it's the first five minutes of the film.

It really doesn't. Disney's Frollo is fairly one-note as far as villains go, he's just a slightly different one-note.

DistantMemory posted...

Also, the reason he's made into a judge and not a priest is because they wanted to avoid any controversy that would arise from portraying a priest and/or the Catholic church in a negative light. It's weird that you connect two totally unrelated things there, as if being a judge would magically make him a flat character;

You take away the religion, he's a flat character. Judges can marry anybody they want. In the novel where he's actually a compelling character, he's torn between his religious vows and his lust. In the movie, he's just an incel. Unless you think the "supreme gentleman" Elliot Rodger was some deep, complicated individual and not justly a sexually-frustrated nutjob.


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