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TopicDEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!
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07/13/21 3:38:59 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
why?

Because hes not suppose to be on there. And if hes going in there for any bad reason like just looking at nude women, its wrong

Sahuagin posted...
by surprise I mean that she was not expecting this. but yeah, the example needs more detail.

I'm going to skip forward because I'm wearing out for today. here's what I have now:

I think the changing room situation is close to being the inverse of the spa situation, but not quite.

it's immoral for a man to enter the women's changing room because the people there have an expectation that is being violated.

but to make it like the spa we would have to say that the people in the changing room had a false expectation.

as I said previously this is a failure of communication.

if the people in the women's change room are under the false impression that they are protected there in some way, then the fault lies with whoever should have made them aware of the situation.

it IS immoral to allow someone into a situation where they will be exposed to nudity non-consensually, even if the rules technically allow for it. (and yes we can separate the sexes there too. a person that consents to being around female nudity does not necessarily consent to being around male nudity.)

I didnt ask what surprise meant, because that still doesnt mean anything. For example, I might surprise my BF by being naked when he comes over, and hes probably like that. But it would be weird if I did the same thing to a friend. Which is why I mentioned the relationship needing to be defined

And you mentioned that they were exposing people to nudity non-consensually, but thats wrong. They were at a spa that allows nudity. Meaning that they were consenting to possibly being around nude people. If they didnt want to be around people who might be nude, they dont go to a spa that allows nudity. Its really that simple. But going to the spa, they would be consenting to following the spa rules. And the spa rules allow nudity. Theres nothing wrong or immoral about that
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