Poll of the Day > DEMOCRAT says she was HORRIFIED to see a WOMAN with PENIS at an ASIAN SPA!!!

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Full Throttle
07/10/21 10:57:44 PM
#1:


Do you think Anita is being dramatic?


"Anita", a latino woman to hispanic immigrants was "horrified" when she and her 6 y/o daughter went to the same Korean Spa last year and saw a transgender woman with a PENIS despite being a DEMOCRAT and supporter of the LGBTQ movement after seeing it happened again recently that caused a massive clash!!

She spoke anonymously to dailymail after taking her daughter to the Wi Spa to experience a "different culture" but never expected to be exposed to a penis in a women's only hot tub

She was shocked to see a "naked man" joining the woman's space including small children and reported it to 5-0 feeling her young daughter was a victim of indecent exposure

She asked dailymail to obscure her identity for fear of being "cancelled" and losing her job as she was dismayed to come across a viral video alleging a similar incident that sparked violence among trans rights supporters and god supporters

The millennial woman said she supports LGBTQ but felt compelled to speak out who said "I read about the spa in a magazine, the LA parent and i'd driven past it before late at night and it almost looks like a night club with cars lined up waiting ot go in. It's in korea town and is super korean. There's entire families, moms, dads, two kids and they're all just hanging out. it seemed like a really cool thing to do with my daughter"

She said there was a section for both sexes and when she walked in everyone was naked as she wasn't raised to be super comfortable being naked around others but since she's from L.A it was the hip thing to do authentic cultural things. She noticed a lot of asian girls naked with their grandmas and moms and thought it was cute and put on face masks..until she saw 2 trans woman in a hot tub and said "All three people were white. The 2 girls had tattoos and coloured hair. I don't like the whole race baiting thing but i would categorize them as the privileged, white, progressive type people. I'm trying really hard not to get in trouble calling the person with a penis a male, but the 'guy' was this skinny hite guy with scraggly long hair and a beard. He had a 5'oclock shadow on him and his penis and scrotum hanging out. The person i saw seemed like an activist, almost enjoying everyone around them being uncomfortable. The whole time i was blocking my daughter's view of the penis and one of other other korean women maneuvered herself to block my daughter's view"

She claimed the police were sympathetic to her situation at first but then blamed her after filing a police report and it was he fault for bringing her daughter knowing what kind of spa it was

Now she's petrified being labelled a |bigot" but wants to protect her daughter's innocence as she doesn't want her knowing what transgender people are until she's old enough and doesn't want her exposed to male penises as she doesn't even have any brothers.

Anita worries men will abuse the laws and pretend to be trans just to get inside these kinds of places and wants laws to stop this.

The spa has now received backlash from conservative groups as pro-christian protesters want people to BOYCOTT the business for supporting trans women as one woman said to a reporter "A woman who has a penis is not a woman. He is a man".

They also seemed to have conflated PEDOPHILIA with gay and trans groups as police had to be there to break up the clash

Do you think Anita is being dramatic?

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DANTE20XX
07/10/21 11:02:14 PM
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I saw the video of this, its fucked up. Then again, its also in Cali so probably pretty common stuff there.

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Revelation34
07/10/21 11:03:37 PM
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You forgot to ask if the mom is hot.
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Gaawa_chan
07/10/21 11:41:33 PM
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Seeing bigoted nonsense like this day in and day out makes me very glad I'm not intersex. I can't imagine how much shit those people have to put up with.

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07/10/21 11:47:45 PM
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Mead
07/10/21 11:52:10 PM
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I can understand that being shocking if you arent expecting it and I can see someone instinctively worrying about their child, but I also think that she could have just taken her kid aside and explained about transgender people and that its okay and it wouldnt be that big of a deal. Kids can handle stuff often better than adults think.

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hungrymike
07/11/21 1:22:05 AM
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Would there be a difference if there was a female only side of the spa vs a women only side of the spa? Like making the the distinction about sex and not gender.
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Zareth
07/11/21 1:25:08 AM
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hungrymike posted...
Would there be a difference if there was a female only side of the spa vs a women only side of the spa? Like making the the distinction about sex and not gender.
Instead of labels just put a picture of a hotdog on one and a taco on the other

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Reigning_King
07/11/21 1:50:48 AM
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No happy ending here I suppose.
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Sahuagin
07/11/21 4:32:42 AM
#10:


Mead posted...
and that its okay
would love to hear how this is okay

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LinkPizza
07/11/21 4:37:56 AM
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I feel like this is late. I saw the video like 2 weeks ago in the sex board Of the original event. Not the protest

Sahuagin posted...
would love to hear how this is okay

Mead said to explain about transgender people to the child and say its ok. So, are you saying that its not ok for transgender people to exist or something?
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Sahuagin
07/11/21 4:42:10 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
are you saying that its not ok for transgender people to exist
no, are you saying that I'm not allowed to exist?

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LinkPizza
07/11/21 5:45:57 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
no, are you saying that I'm not allowed to exist?

If youre saying transgender people shouldnt exist, then the same goes for you.

If youre saying the opposite, then the same goes for you, as well
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lihlih
07/11/21 6:49:11 AM
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Gaawa_chan posted...
Seeing bigoted nonsense like this day in and day out makes me very glad I'm not intersex. I can't imagine how much shit those people have to put up with.


The "trans" person had a beard and was definitely not an actual Trans person. I hate anti Trans shit, and this is definitely not it.
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Clench281
07/11/21 6:57:26 AM
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lihlih posted...
The "trans" person had a beard and was definitely not an actual Trans person. I hate anti Trans shit, and this is definitely not it.

First it says beard, but then it walks it back saying 5 o'clock shadow, which is a far cry from a beard. Some people have prominent visible hair shafts even immediately after shaving so without interviewing or seeing what this person actually looked like we're just going off someone's word.

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adjl
07/11/21 10:17:19 AM
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Sahuagin posted...
would love to hear how this is okay

Because seeing a penis is inherently harmless.

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Revelation34
07/11/21 10:18:33 AM
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adjl posted...


Because seeing a penis is inherently harmless.


I guess so. Everybody knows it's normal for 6 year old girls to see penises.
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adjl
07/11/21 10:21:13 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
I guess so. Everybody knows it's normal for 6 year old girls to see penises.

Oh, it's not normal, because society is a bunch of prudes that freak out over any form of nudity (especially cross-sex exposure). "Normal" and "harmless" are two very different things, though.

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Nichtcrawler X
07/11/21 10:54:45 AM
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"Indecent exposure" is based on genitals. If we say it is illegal to expose one's penis in public, does it then matter what the sex and/or gender are of the person the penis is attached to?

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LinkPizza
07/11/21 10:56:49 AM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
"Indecent exposure" is based on genitals. If we say it is illegal to expose one's penis in public, does it then matter what the sex and/or gender are of the person the penis is attached to?

No. AFAIK, it doesnt, nor should it, apparently Though, I dont think its indecent exposure since it was in a spa, in the area they were allowed to be without clothes
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Hop103
07/11/21 10:58:25 AM
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Gender reassignment surgery should be something that must be covered in a future UHC plan, no one wants to see a woman with a shlong.
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adjl
07/11/21 10:58:36 AM
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Yeah, indecent exposure only applies to places where people aren't explicitly permitted to be naked.

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Nichtcrawler X
07/11/21 11:16:56 AM
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LinkPizza posted...
Though, I dont think its indecent exposure since it was in a spa, in the area they were allowed to be without clothes

Then it depends on how it is worded. Rules/laws might just need to catch up. I mean, if it was a "women" only area, it still depends on how permitted nudity is worded.

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LinkPizza
07/11/21 11:25:44 AM
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Nichtcrawler X posted...
Then it depends on how it is worded. Rules/laws might just need to catch up. I mean, if it was a "women" only area, it still depends on how permitted nudity is worded.

The problem is that the establishment let the person in question into that area, and allowed them to be nude. If they werent suppose to be in that area, or werent suppose to be nude, indecent exposure could be used. But that doesnt seem to be the case

Hop103 posted...
Gender reassignment surgery should be something that must be covered in a future UHC plan, no one wants to see a woman with a shlong.

Dont kink shame Some like it
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adjl
07/11/21 11:39:23 AM
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Hop103 posted...
Gender reassignment surgery should be something that must be covered in a future UHC plan, no one wants to see a woman with a shlong.

Regardless of whether or not they can afford it, people spend at least a couple years transitioning non-surgically before undergoing genital reconstruction. A crucial part of the transitioning process is experimenting with a new identity to see if it helps the dysphoria. If it doesn't, proceeding with irreversible changes is a bad idea because that's not actually solving their problems. I don't disagree that transitioning should be covered (gender dysphoria being a serious life-threatening condition and all), but justifying that by saying that you don't want to see intermediate states of transitioning is both ignorant of the process and thoroughly intolerant of trans people.

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deoxxys
07/11/21 12:16:56 PM
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Mead
07/11/21 12:22:48 PM
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no one wants to see a woman with a shlong.

speak for yourself

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BUMPED2002
07/11/21 1:29:19 PM
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I think the term is hermaphrodite in which one can have both male and female reporductive organs.

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Muscles
07/11/21 1:51:18 PM
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adjl posted...
Because seeing a penis is inherently harmless.
6 year olds don't need to be seeing anyone's genitals, regardless if they are cis or Trans, even if it is harmless this time

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LinkPizza
07/11/21 1:58:02 PM
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Muscles posted...
6 year olds don't need to be seeing anyone's genitals, regardless if they are cis or Trans, even if it is harmless this time

Then maybe her mom shouldnt take her to a spa where people walk around nude Because many people there were nude
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jiffdiff
07/11/21 2:29:00 PM
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If you're concerned about your kids being exposed to nudity, then maybe don't take them places where it's acceptable for people to be nude. It's also pretty fucked up that some of those images are assuming trans people at spas are just automatically pedophiles.
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adjl
07/11/21 4:10:48 PM
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jiffdiff posted...
If you're concerned about your kids being exposed to nudity, then maybe don't take them places where it's acceptable for people to be nude. It's also pretty fucked up that some of those images are assuming trans people at spas are just automatically pedophiles.

You see the same assumption come up in the bathroom debate. Never mind that trans people are overwhelmingly more commonly the victims of sexual assault in bathrooms than the perpetrators, as soon as people hear about trans people going into the "wrong" bathroom, they assume it's to be a pedophile and not just to poop.

Muscles posted...
6 year olds don't need to be seeing anyone's genitals, regardless if they are cis or Trans, even if it is harmless this time

They don't need to, but that's very different from saying that they shouldn't. If you believe that it is harmful, you should be able to articulate the harm it can cause. So what's the harm?

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07/11/21 4:19:50 PM
#33:


LinkPizza posted...
Then maybe her mom shouldnt take her to a spa where people walk around nude Because many people there were nude
Yup. Been to a few and ya have to go outta your way to not see a dong. If you cant handle it well its on you for visiting.

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Mead
07/11/21 4:21:49 PM
#34:


Every parent is different but personally I wouldnt take a kid somewhere that strangers are likely to be naked

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LinkPizza
07/11/21 4:34:48 PM
#35:


Mead posted...
Every parent is different but personally I wouldnt take a kid somewhere that strangers are likely to be naked

Tbh, I thought that spas where you could be nude were age restricted. Like at least teenagers or something
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zebatov
07/11/21 5:44:46 PM
#36:


Latino woman.

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Sahuagin
07/12/21 12:09:59 AM
#37:


the problem here I think is that it is non-consensual.

this is due to a failure of communication rather than any one person's actions.

it's not an ok situation, and not something we should just brush off. this situation should be prevented from happening.

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ReturnOfFa
07/12/21 12:12:12 AM
#38:


a) she was already shocked by the nudity of females initially and decided to go in with her daughter. doesn't sound like her kind of place.

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DragonClaw01
07/12/21 12:41:14 AM
#39:


Sahuagin posted...
the problem here I think is that it is non-consensual.

this is due to a failure of communication rather than any one person's actions.

it's not an ok situation, and not something we should just brush off. this situation should be prevented from happening.
I dunno. It is is pretty much the Kobayashi Maru. Either way you are pretty much screwed. I can certainly see why the spa just throws their hands in the air and says F it. Honestly, if it was not for the kid being in the whole mix, I don't see people caring that much. Most of the women just seemed like they were trying their best to ignore the transsexuals' for the most part. They probably did not like them, but if they aren't doing anything there is not much you can do. I mean this is LA we are talking about, not exactly Texas hill country.

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MrMelodramatic
07/12/21 1:00:18 AM
#40:


Sahuagin posted...
the problem here I think is that it is non-consensual.
idk man. Paying money to be allowed into an establishment where nudity is allowed (and is the norm) seems like consenting to the possibility of seeing nudity

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ReturnOfFa
07/12/21 1:16:15 AM
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MrMelodramatic posted...
idk man. Paying money to be allowed into an establishment where nudity is allowed (and is the norm) seems like consenting to the possibility of seeing nudity
pretty much. also, who the hell didn't see the odd opposite gender nude person as a child - when your opposite gender parent takes you to swim lessons and you change in the other washroom?

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adjl
07/12/21 1:39:16 PM
#42:


Sahuagin posted...
the problem here I think is that it is non-consensual.

If it's harmless, is consent actually needed? Do I need consent from people on the street to expose my forearm? Sure, there are elements of people's expectations to consider, but this is an environment where total nudity is expected. Why should penises be excluded from that?

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MeteoricBurst
07/12/21 1:47:23 PM
#43:


Wait I thought this whole thing had turned out to be a hoax. Last I heard the police were investigating but there was no evidence of any trans person being present at the time alleged.

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adjl
07/12/21 1:49:31 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
Wait I thought this whole thing had turned out to be a hoax. Last I heard the police were investigating but there was no evidence of any trans person being present at the time alleged.

Hoax or not, there's plenty of room to debate the issue hypothetically.

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07/12/21 1:51:02 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzrRoDd9CxM

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MeteoricBurst
07/12/21 1:54:28 PM
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adjl posted...
Hoax or not, there's plenty of room to debate the issue hypothetically.

What's to debate. The spa in question is known to have trans clientele. There is no debate it's part of their policy. This was not some unique thing there. That's how they knew none of their registered clients was there at the time. So if it was indeed faked this person should be arrested. People got assaulted over this too.

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adjl
07/12/21 2:53:18 PM
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MeteoricBurst posted...
What's to debate. The spa in question is known to have trans clientele. There is no debate it's part of their policy.

Whether or not it should be part of their policy, whether or not it should be part of everyone's policies, whether or not this (or any other hypothetical) person is reasonable to be so upset by this... There are a lot of dissenting opinions on all of those points, opinions which are coming into play in much of the anti-trans legislation being devised in the US as we speak. This is an active social issue, and there's plenty to discuss around it.

MeteoricBurst posted...
So if it was indeed faked this person should be arrested. People got assaulted over this too.

I can agree with that, though I don't know if there's any actual grounds for charges. It's not defamation against the spa because this is in fact consistent with their policies, and I don't know that there's any basis for holding here responsible for assaults committed by other people. Obviously, lying about it is bad and I'd love to see punishment doled out accordingly, but there may not be a legal avenue for that.

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Gaawa_chan
07/12/21 3:22:02 PM
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The pearl clutching in this topic, jfc. "A parent took a child to a place full of naked people, and the child saw... a NAKED PERSON! THIS IS CLEARLY THE FAULT OF THE NAKED PERSON! REEEEE!"

BUMPED2002 posted...
I think the term is hermaphrodite in which one can have both male and female reporductive organs.
It's intersex. Hermaphrodites are members of species who as a whole have both male and female reproductive organs, like slugs, so the term is not appropriate for intersex people.

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Sycophant
07/12/21 5:59:54 PM
#49:


this Woman is such a snowflake. Gender is a fluid concept.
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wwinterj25
07/12/21 6:02:14 PM
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Seems a bit dramatic. Most should be teaching their kids about trans folk but more to the point we shouldn't be ashamed of the human body. Plenty of different age groups attend nudist events and are probably better for it as they don't think of being naked as automatically being sexual.

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