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TopicMCU General 3: Loki Loki Panic
HeroDelTiempo17
07/02/21 10:46:02 AM
#19:


MrGreenonion posted...
I kinda don't agree with the whole thing about Loki being a narcissist and that's why he fell for Sylvie. His animating motivations for the last decade have been self-loathing and an inferiority complex. Dude HATES himself. Like think of all the time he spent between Dark World and Ragnarok just chilling as Odin. He didn't seem to have any ambition beyond that, and he didn't try to do anything like make a miraculous return and have "Odin" abdicate the throne to him so he could rule under his own identity. I don't think a narcissist would be satisfied ruling under a false identity, but I get the feeling Loki was truly happy during that time. He hated being Loki and just wanted to not have to anymore.

My interpretation here is that Loki may hate his TRUE self but he's all about illusions. He has this grand idea about what he deserves and this conquering, scheming, badass version of himself that he COULD like, and that's the version of himself he projects when he's being a villain. His arc is that over time he gets worse at lying about this, which took four movies but we are seeing condensed here (look how laughably awful he was at lying about his feelings this episode). Meanwhile Sylvie already is that "badass Loki," at least to him.

MoogleKupo141 posted...
on the heteronormative thing, I was sort of surprised after there had been discussion in interviews of Loki being genderfluid, it turns out thats not really the case here.
I had assumed when she showed up that Sylvie was a Loki who chose to take on a new female identity, but in the last episode she says she was born a girl.

I don't think anything in the episode outright debunks the theory (echoing post 14 here) but I do find it so very Disney that they went out of their way to provide ammunition against the headcanon this episode. Was especially rolling my eyes at the scene in the elevator where Sylvie asks what she was even arrested for and gets told by Miss Badass Time Cop that she doesn't remember. Lmao really bitch? You expect me to believe you forgot Sylvie got arrested for the crime of being a woman? They couldn't have just written confirmation of that? It isn't really a mystery - she's right there! Yes, they used that line to make a point about how fascism doesn't care but they could still have made that same point.

Really hard for me not to view this the exact same way as bi Loki - Disney gets to have their cake and eat it too as long as they aren't super explicit about it on-screen.

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