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Topic	Conservatives demand RETRIAL for CHAUVIN after a JUROR attended BLM Rally!!!
Zeus 05/04/21 3:36:45 PM #26:	Joe_Biden posted... zeus falls back on trying to pretend no one knows who he is and what he does, again What crazy accusations is crazy Helly crazily leveling this time? adjl posted... Really, that's true for most highly-publicized cases, regardless of the juror's actions. The notion of finding a perfectly impartial juror who has no pre-existing opinion on a case that they've already heard about has never been anything more than a fantasy. You'd be extremely hard-pressed to find somebody that doesn't want a murderer convicted for committing a murder, but that doesn't mean people can't be convinced that it wasn't a murder if the evidence presented doesn't prove that it was. There's a pretty massive gulf between "maybe he's heard a litle about this trial" and "he's attended protests related to the subject of the trial while being pictured next to people with shirts specifically protesting the person on trial". While it can be hard to find somebody who hasn't heard about a case at all, you can do a fuckton better than going with somebody who already had their mind made up and lied about their activities to get on the jury panel. If you're going in with that level of bias, no amount of evidence can change a person's mind (and that's assuming that they're not interested in convicting regardless of guilt to send a social message, which both some BLM supporters and people on Gamefaqs have suggested in other cases involving alleged police brutality) adjl posted... Eh, that's debatable. The BLM rallies following Floyd's death were protesting a whole lot more than just Floyd's death, even if Floyd was the last straw. The claim could very easily be made that he felt that police violence was a problem in a more general sense, but not necessarily that Chauvin was an example of it. Despite people's attempts to characterize it as such, BLM is not a hive mind, and the issue of police brutality is a whole lot more nuanced than "let's just throw all the cops in jail." So you mean instead having a bias specifically against Chauvin, he was biased against all police? Either way, that removes any possibility at a fair trial. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:953551083] in Conservati... [t:79440048]...</cite> <quote>Joe_Biden posted... </cite> <quote>zeus falls back on trying to pretend no one knows who he is and what he does, again</quote> What crazy accusations is crazy Helly crazily leveling this time? adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Really, that's true for most highly-publicized cases, regardless of the juror's actions. The notion of finding a perfectly impartial juror who has no pre-existing opinion on a case that they've already heard about has never been anything more than a fantasy. You'd be extremely hard-pressed to find somebody that doesn't want a murderer convicted for committing a murder, but that doesn't mean people can't be convinced that it wasn't a murder if the evidence presented doesn't prove that it was.</quote> There's a pretty massive gulf between "maybe he's heard a litle about this trial" and "he's attended protests related to the subject of the trial while being pictured next to people with shirts specifically protesting the person on trial". While it can be hard to find somebody who hasn't heard about a case at all, you can do a fuckton better than going with somebody who already had their mind made up and lied about their activities to get on the jury panel. If you're going in with that level of bias, no amount of evidence can change a person's mind (and that's assuming that they're not interested in convicting regardless of guilt to send a social message, which both some BLM supporters and people on Gamefaqs have suggested in other cases involving alleged police brutality) adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Eh, that's debatable. The BLM rallies following Floyd's death were protesting a whole lot more than just Floyd's death, even if Floyd was the last straw. The claim could very easily be made that he felt that police violence was a problem in a more general sense, but not necessarily that Chauvin was an example of it. Despite people's attempts to characterize it as such, BLM is not a hive mind, and the issue of police brutality is a whole lot more nuanced than "let's just throw all the cops in jail."</quote> So you mean instead having a bias specifically against Chauvin, he was biased against all police? Either way, that removes any possibility at a fair trial. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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