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TopicBoard 8 National Football League League (B8NFLL) Season 15: The Offseason
KCF0107
04/05/21 7:04:01 AM
#27:


As always, I will publicly reveal my ballot

QB Aaron Rodgers - No

He had an underrated career, but he quickly easily falls short of enshrinement on the virtues of his issues with overall average efficiency and below-average turnover rates. His inclusion on the ballot was more for his counting stats at least making sense to being the first QB to be on the ballot and also because he was the poster child was the wild War years running the Browns. As mentioned, he led the league in passing yards four straight seasons when War decided to air the ball all the time with a WR corps that included Terrell Owens and Steve Smith. He also led the league in INTs for two of those seasons with a combined 55.

HB Darius Walker - Yes

The HBs are all a fascinating case for various reasons. Walker had a YPC between 3.9 and 4.1 for eight of his 11 seasons his peaks in terms of yardage were actually in his first two seasons. However, he amassed almost 16000 total yards in just 11 seasons and more importantly put up a whopping 109 TDs in his career. He did, undeservedly, win a RB of the Year award as well. I never considered him to be an elite HB, but his body of work suggests his career deserves to be in the hall.

HB Jamario Thomas - No

Aspects of his game are very impressive, namely his absurdly low fumble rate and how he ran for at least a 4.2 YPC for six of his 11 seasons. He once led the league in rushing and also has a Comeback Player of the Year award to his name. The constant injuries though really kind of sour things when looking at his year-by-year statlines, with just five of his 11 seasons resulting 1000+ rushing yards, and just two of those five with a 4.2 or greater YPC. He also didn't find the endzone often or carve out a role in the passing game. To his credit, he was clearly vital to the offense, but in a league where we will always have a bunch of HBs on the Hall of Fame ballot, I don't want to say yes to every HB out there he reaches a certain stat threshold, so I'm going to have to say no.

HB DeAngelo Williams - Yes

Okay yes I know that I held Jamario's injuries against him, but DeAngelo was simply a beast He had a 4.3 or greater YPC in nine of his 13 seasons. He had six seasons of 350+ receiving yards. The fumble numbers were inflated due to higher fumbling rates for returners, of which he had more than 300 returns in his career, so his total doesn't bother me much. Another factor was his impact on the team. Much like real life, the Lion's rushing game has arguably been the league's worst when he has missed time. I think Selvin Young in S11 has been the only the time a HB other than Williams has recorded a 4.0 or greater YPC in a season for the Lions, regardless of the amoung of carries. He just always seemed like a special back to me, and his body of work I think is good enough to warrant his inclusion. Plus, how can you say no to his absurdly productive work as a LB when he garnered accolades?

HB Reggie Bush - No

I admit that I didn't think his numbers were quite like that when I went to look at them. However, I do still think that he's the least deserving of the four HB candidates. Unlike DeAngelo, Bush only had a handful of returns in his career, so his fumbling rate definitely raised some eyebrows. The bulk of his work was in Carolina where there was a four-season stretch where he put up 1200+ rushing yards on 4.2+ YPC, but that was the extent of his damage. The rest of his career was defined by ineffectiveness. He just completely disappeared for long stretches of time, including multiple seasons. He had a paltry 54.6 rushing yards per game, and while him being the starter for about 60% of his games did play a role, it is below several other HBs who have started fewer than 50% of their games played, including Knowshon Moreno and Kestahn Moore. It seems weird that I am saying no to someone who had over 15000 total yards and almost 80 TDs in their career, but I don't think there was ever a time when I would rank Bush among the Top 10 HBs in the league. It's possible that I would have said yes to him in another season, but when he's matched up with three other HBs that I think were better and more impactful, it's hard to say yes.

WR Mike Williams - No

I applaud him for his ability to stay healthy until his final season and for playing well for such an up-and-down franchise like the Bengals, but his career YPC is mediocre, and his averaged less than 5 TDs a season. He had one 1000 yard season. Nothing about him screams exciting or elite. Nice career all things considered, but he's not a Hall of Famer.

G Jake Grove - Yes

He has a great ratio for an interior OL, he has high block totals, he has been decorated, and he missed just two games in his career. Everybody would kill to have an interior OL like Grove. He's an easy yes from me. If I had just two votes, he would be one of them.

DE Mathias Kiwanuka - Yes

I may be a bit biased because Kiwanuka was the first player that I selected on behalf of MZero and the Patriots after the infamous S2 mass exodus of players back before there were safety nets in the offseason. Kiwanuka, while good for the occasional FF, was really only good at one thing, and that was sacking the QB. Getting to 100 career sacks is a major accomplishment, and to me that is basically an automatic yes vote. DL age the worst out of any unit out there, so while they may retire later than other positions, it is hard for them to keep up their ratings long enough to stick around as a starter. Also factoring in how wildly sack totals can fluctuate, 100 career sacks is mighty impressive in my book. Yeah, I would have liked to see better stats across the board and more Pro Bowl recognition or an award, but I have long felt like he's had a high impact on that Pats defense and kept that unit from falling apart in those early seasons. Also, 109 sacks is the second on the all-time list.

DE Luis Castillo - No

He had an underrated career as he was sneakily named to three Pro Bowls, and I do think that he was an important factor on some good Carolina defenses, but I just don't see him as a Hall of Famer. Perhaps if his final few seasons weren't duds, he would have reached the magic number of 100 sacks.

OLB Kamerion Wimbley - Yes

Man, what a story. This dude went undrafted, somehow managed to avoid to annual purging of free agents for a few seasons, was signed by a Pioneers, then called the Texans, squad coming off of a 4-12 season, miraculously was named a starter, and he just fucking beasted from then on. He had just eight seasons of work, three of which he missed at least three games (one he missed eight), and he still managed to retire being in the Top 10 of all major categories. He averaged nearly one defensive TD a season! He was named LB of the Year and Defensive Player of the Year and four Pro Bowls. He's the best player on the ballot.
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