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xp1337 posted...

I was thinking of ed/lefty-era but in practice it was probably your rules from last year. I didn't think you deviated too far from that but maybe my memory is just totally shot. What did you change again? Full versions of songs allowed, IIRC.

Ed/lefty years were extremely strict. I was more relaxed in general, albeit I was always fighting a war over rhythm and anime opening full songs. It wasn't so much that I explicitly changed the rules as I allowed for shades of gray.

On the OST - On its face, I don't find this objectionable but in practice I know this can get weird fast. ... This is where I start getting antsy, personally, because of how this seemingly innocent expansion can get a bit out of control.

The OST is not the original in-game music - This is definitely where you start losing me. ... in my mind, should be for the music in the actual video game. ...

"Obviously made for a video game"/Simulator music - I see both sides of this and I feel like if you went there enforcement would become pretty arbitrary and while most of us might ultimately agree on a "common sense" basis I'm not sure it's a box we really want to open.

1) I've generally been against this precisely because there are sometimes songs included on OSTs that aren't really meant for the game. They were written, or that version at least was written, specifically for the OST and not for the game. Taking an orchestral arrangement of some main theme feels like we're admitting covers. However, I also admit that it's a lot simpler to allow anything on an OST and it does allow us to include songs that are extensions of the game like trailer music, unreleased tracks, etc.

2) See my remark about allowing covers.

3) The lack of standards of enforceability is what makes this hard. It definitely runs the risk of becoming arbitrary what can stay and what can't. I remember in one of the early BOSTs someone nominated some game that was basically a DDR mod where people submit songs to a contest to get included in this "game," and I ultimately disallowed it because the songs weren't written for a game so much as they were written and then submitted. However, this is kinda weird sometimes, because then how do you term the Castle Crashers soundtrack, which was a bunch of uploads to newgrounds that The Behemoth used with permission.

In general, I agree with xp's final remarks, but, well, I got to have my say for the last five years. I know one of the things deo and mycro were most excited about being able to change was the eligibility standards. So, other than that I tried to mostly be a traditionalist in my years of hosting, I think it's pretty evident where my beliefs lie. This post is just to try to explain why.

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