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Topic	Should police have qualified immunity for setting people on fire?
Zeus 03/17/21 4:22:06 AM #4:	Lokarin posted... Reddit link is for link shortening purposes https://redd.it/m6p5po > ACLU, Libertarians Oppose Qualified Immunity for Cops Who Set Man on Fire to Stop Him from Setting Himself on Fire > In 2017, Gabriel Eduardo Olivas was acting strange and threatening to kill himself. His son called 911 for help. The police in Texas arrived and rendered those threats inoperative by setting Olivas on fire and killing him. > The 39-year-old victims family suednoting that when the cops arrived on the scene, they found Olivas covered in gasoline and decided to respond by tasing him, setting him ablaze, resulting in his slow and agonizing death several days later. Still, the cops got off without consequences. Now, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and two libertarian organizations want the Arlington Police officers responsible for the mentally ill mans death to be held accountable in a court of law. Uhhh... not really the same thing at all? CyborgSage00x0 posted... Qualified immunity shouldn't be a thing, period. Which is basically saying "police shouldn't be a thing, period" because it's damn near impossible for them to operate in any meaningful capacity without qualified immunity. Nichtcrawler X posted... Force has to be situation proportionate and apropriate, tasing a person that will clearly ignite from being tased, is just simply torture, no other way about it. They were trying to subdue him before he could set himself on fire, not realizing that the tasers would set him aflame. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:951795494] in Should pol... [t:79352987]...</cite> <quote>Lokarin posted... </cite> <quote>Reddit link is for link shortening purposes https://redd.it/m6p5po > ACLU, Libertarians Oppose Qualified Immunity for Cops Who Set Man on Fire to Stop Him from Setting Himself on Fire > In 2017, Gabriel Eduardo Olivas was acting strange and threatening to kill himself. His son called 911 for help. The police in Texas arrived and rendered those threats inoperative by setting Olivas on fire and killing him. > The 39-year-old victims family suednoting that when the cops arrived on the scene, they found Olivas covered in gasoline and decided to respond by tasing him, setting him ablaze, resulting in his slow and agonizing death several days later. Still, the cops got off without consequences. Now, the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and two libertarian organizations want the Arlington Police officers responsible for the mentally ill mans death to be held accountable in a court of law.</quote> Uhhh... not really the same thing at all? CyborgSage00x0 posted... </cite> <quote>Qualified immunity shouldn't be a thing, period.</quote> Which is basically saying "police shouldn't be a thing, period" because it's damn near impossible for them to operate in any meaningful capacity without qualified immunity. Nichtcrawler X posted... </cite> <quote>Force has to be situation proportionate and apropriate, tasing a person that will clearly ignite from being tased, is just simply torture, no other way about it.</quote> They were trying to subdue him before he could set himself on fire, not realizing that the tasers would set him aflame. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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