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It's not enough of a ripoff to get that upset about it.

Maybe not for you. For me it is. I can never justify buying a $60 game or even a $30 game for $10 DLC.

They also never had a console fail that spectacularly after investing as many development resources into it as they did with the WiiU. A lot of talent and effort got wasted on the WiiU due to how few people were able to play its games. Porting them is obviously the best decision, both in terms of finances and in terms of respecting the developers' efforts and entertaining as many people as possible.

Virtual Boy was a failure and all of its games are still exclusive. Gamecube, Saturn and Dreamcast were also failures and they all had more real exclusives than Wii U. The right decision was to keep those games exclusive for at least another generation to give the people who bought the Wii U the exclusives they deserved and to not sully Nintendo's legacy. A console maker must never burn those who bought their console, even if it means they lose money or the casuals don't get the games they want.

Rule of thumb: If it's worth playing now, it'll still be worth playing in 20 years' time, and that means it's worth remaking so contemporary audiences can enjoy it. You can fairly safely assume that any reasonably popular game will eventually be remade, especially if it's a console exclusive (and therefore can't be played outside of its original generation) and/or has a lot of room to be improved on the technical front.

Those remakes better not have new content then, because if they do, videogames are ruined forever.

No, you bought Super Mario 3D World because it looked like a fun game, which is presumably the same reason you bought Galaxy 1&2, Sunshine, and 64, despite all four of those coming out within a decade of a Mario port (64 was 3 years after All Stars, Sunshine was 9 years later, Galaxy 1&2 were 3 and 6 years after 64 DS, respectively). You're lying to yourself and to everyone around you if you think it was anything more than that (unless you also didn't buy any of the aforementioned four games, in which case... that's really weird, but carry on).

If I thought there was even the remote possibility Super Mario 3D World would be remade even 7 years later, then I would have not bought it and I would wait for the remake. I never buy games that I think that I can get a better deal later, even if the game is fun.

I got Sunshine and 64 DS when I was a kid. Galaxy 1 and 2 were pirated, and my original Wii broke because of pirating games which is why I went legit with Wii U games.

I know you're desperately looking for some way to rationalize how you feel about Bowser's Fury, but you shouldn't pretend your original motivations for purchasing the original were anything more than what they were. That's just enabling yourself to avoid confronting harmful thoughts and behaviours. How you feel about Bowser's Fury is irrational. I know that you know this, and I know that you don't like it and are looking for anything you can grasp onto to avoid having to accept that. This is what psychologists call ego-dystonic anxiety: you're aware that it's wrong to feel it, but you can't help it. It's tempting to avoid it by making up whatever reasons you can find to convince yourself it's not irrational, but you can't keep up that charade, nor can you expect others to enable it for you. You need to accept that your feelings are irrational and learn to work around that fact, rather than pretending it isn't there.

No, people need to stop being fucking me over for buying the Wii U. If anyone had to be fucked over, it's the casuals, not me. And irrational != wrong. Just because I want to buy a fun game doesn't mean that I should be screwed over and miss out on other content forever. And stop playing armchair psychologist.

For what's it's worth, being frustrated by all of these ports is reasonable. It is annoying to have improved versions of games released so relatively soon after buying the originals, even if it's not going full Street Fighter. I'm not giving you a hard time for being frustrated by them, I'm giving you a hard time for feeling that your life has been ruined, throwing out objective falsehoods like "Nintendo lied to us and didn't make any exclusives for the WiiU," and demanding that the entire game industry reinvent a perfectly reasonable practice for no other reason than to satisfy your compulsions. There's a ton of middle ground between what you're doing and bending over and buying everything a second time, middle ground which I suspect most WiiU owners occupy (I myself have no plans to buy any of these remakes because I'm satisfied with the originals and the extra content isn't worth $60). That's where you should be, because that's a far more reasonable, healthy position to hold than working yourself into a frenzy like this.

I will never be happy if I have to choose between never getting all the content that I want and buying a whole game that I already bought and played just to get DLC, because I can never be happy with either choice. Even the middle ground is unacceptable unless the price of the ports sinks to nothing eventually, and that never happens with Nintendo games. And going Street Fighter is not a perfectly reasonable practice.

And when I say Wii U had no real exclusives I am not saying a falsehood. The only exclusives that make a failed console worth buying are exclusives that are exclusive for decades like Virtual Boy and Gamecube had. If Nintendo wasn't going to give the Wii U real exclusives then Wii U was a ripoff because nobody would buy such a console if they could skip it and get all its games anyway.