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Jakyl25 posted...

The group Babbitt was with trying to get into the corridor filled with cops and Secret Service with guns drawn

i find that one weird. i mean okay, that def falls in the directed insurrection grouping and if you're looking for that quick one liner there ya go, with a strong emphasis on "directed."

i'm less curious on the individuals though and more the leaders because they weren't much more than cattle, which is circling back to the point made/post agreed with.

scenario we saw was basically Babbitt taunting one guy who seemed to be the main leader and the rest followed along. and this repeated itself like 4 times somehow, with the same trend of shove guy -> guy chases him -> mob follows guy. like, at no point did they realize they were being baited? none of them? i'm curious on what communication exists there because that leaves two possibilities: either they're all in on it or there's a select few who are and a bunch of people who just go "oh, crowd's moving." latter would at least make them more on the chaos side a plausible take, even if it's unlikely. that's just looking at it from a reasonable doubt stance though, i'm thinking the most plausible answer is a group of randos were told something, bundled together under a handful of wranglers, and that's why herding them worked so well. would explain why there's no thought by anyone. hell, if there's insiders and the guy being shoved knew of them, maybe he thought "this is one of our own." either case, most of 'em were the useful idiots.

obviously they committed multiple crimes in the process so charge and investigate away, though don't expect much out of 'em, if i'm right it'd mean their idea of what to do next was riding along whatever the crowd was doing/someone said, meaning they don't have a particular plot or plan, it got planted in 'em while they were there. on the other hand, anyone who did come up with that plan or agreed to it beforehand, whole other story and that's who you want to dig into hard because it bypasses the similar rhetoric and focuses on getting current planners better.

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