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Topic	Who does Rudolph go down in history with?
HanOfTheNekos 12/21/20 3:45:35 PM #118:	HashtagSEP posted... It's a stretch already to make Columbus work, how the hell does Lincoln work It's incredibly odd because the rhythmic structure is entirely unique. Ignoring the middle section of the song, the lines follow a simple ABABABAB all the time. The echoes follow this as well. Reindeer Like a lightbulb Saw it Like a lightbulb Reindeer Like Pinocchio Rudolph Like Monopoly Loved him Yippee Reindeer Like (historical figure) Every single A line is a two syllable echo, with every B line followed by a silly line that has small enough rhythmic units to demonstrate the song is in compound meter (aside - this IS important because studies of children's songs show that kids default to compound meter in their folk songs as they default to minor thirds as intervals that are sung). The only time where that pattern is broken is with 'Yippee', which makes sense because rhythmically, it's adding variation that lends itself to setting up the line as being dominant leading to a cadence. "Like Lincoln" is just three beats. It breaks from rhythmic tonality, which doesn't make sense, and there isn't a single other time in the song where the echo is only three beats, unless you follow other weird things like 'like Dumbo'. tl;dr - incorrect rhythm in the final echo is the same as ending the song on a different chord Lopen posted... But I'm not extrapolating further. This is case for case and not a hard rule. I wouldn't say Trump works. I actually would say Charlie Brown works less well than Lincoln too despite it having one more syllable because I can't figure out how to draw things out/add pauses on that one It is a hard rule though. Columbus just doesn't break the rule. Charlie Brown is also weird, but makes a tad more sense than Lincoln. You just make the rhythm "two three-ah four". But in the song, we're used to having the third partial on the second beat for the echoes and that's why it is also weird in this situation. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic <cite>HanOfTheNekos posted [p:948609121] in Who does R... [t:79188400]...</cite> <quote>HashtagSEP posted... </cite> <quote>It's a stretch already to make Columbus work, how the hell does Lincoln work</quote> It's incredibly odd because the rhythmic structure is entirely unique. Ignoring the middle section of the song, the lines follow a simple ABABABAB all the time. The echoes follow this as well. Reindeer Like a lightbulb Saw it Like a lightbulb Reindeer Like Pinocchio Rudolph Like Monopoly Loved him Yippee Reindeer Like (historical figure) Every single A line is a two syllable echo, with every B line followed by a silly line that has small enough rhythmic units to demonstrate the song is in compound meter (aside - this IS important because studies of children's songs show that kids default to compound meter in their folk songs as they default to minor thirds as intervals that are sung). The only time where that pattern is broken is with 'Yippee', which makes sense because rhythmically, it's adding variation that lends itself to setting up the line as being dominant leading to a cadence. "Like Lincoln" is just three beats. It breaks from rhythmic tonality, which doesn't make sense, and there isn't a single other time in the song where the echo is only three beats, unless you follow other weird things like 'like Dumbo'. tl;dr - incorrect rhythm in the final echo is the same as ending the song on a different chord Lopen posted... </cite> <quote>But I'm not extrapolating further. This is case for case and not a hard rule. I wouldn't say Trump works. I actually would say Charlie Brown works less well than Lincoln too despite it having one more syllable because I can't figure out how to draw things out/add pauses on that one</quote> It is a hard rule though. Columbus just doesn't break the rule. Charlie Brown is also weird, but makes a tad more sense than Lincoln. You just make the rhythm "two three-ah four". But in the song, we're used to having the third partial on the second beat for the echoes and that's why it is also weird in this situation. --- "Bordate is a pretty shady place, what with the gangs, casinos, evil corporations and water park." - FAHtastic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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