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Topic	UN vote to combat glorification of Nazism passes 130-2
Gobstoppers12 12/18/20 1:53:13 PM #83:	averagejoel posted... you are legitimizing genocide as a political option. There's a huge, huge problem with your statement. Free speech does not automatically legitimize the subject being spoken about. Free speech is the guarantee that ideas and views can be held or exchanged without fear of the government punishing an individual who holds views them. This prevents the government from censoring opinions it dislikes. Right now, sure, it's about Nazism. But who defines Nazism? If we put a blanket ban on "all glorification of Nazis or their ideology," who makes the determination on borderline cases? Who defines exactly which words can't be used? Do you really trust the government to make those choices for us? Free speech is protection from oppression, even though some of you seem to think it enables oppression. Free speech allows us to be who we are, openly and honestly, and in turn makes it easier for us to pick and choose our friends and associates. Would you rather somebody speak up about their racist ideology so people know they're scum, or would it be better if they kept it hidden until it bubbled over into something more extreme than words? Apart from debating free speech as a concept, there's another problem here. Some people are far, far too susceptible to propaganda. Snappy headlines. Self-granted titles. The act of naming one's self, or one's proposal, in a certain way, does not actually ensure that the name or title is accurate. I see it all the time around here: "If you dislike antifa, then you must be a facist." This is patently untrue, in a variety of ways. Do you think North Korea, or the "DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)" is actually democratic? Do you think it belongs to the people? Just because a proposal is titled in a way that makes it seem like its purpose is to combat Nazism, that doesn't mean that's what it's actually for. The devil is in the details. Don't vote just for the titles, or judge a story based on its headlines. What ever happened to the classic adage, "don't judge a book by its cover?" It doesn't just apply to good books with bad covers. It applies to bad ones with good covers, too. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry. <cite>Gobstoppers12 posted [p:948492548] in UN vote to... [t:79183901]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>you are legitimizing genocide as a political option.</quote>There's a huge, huge problem with your statement. Free speech does not automatically legitimize the subject being spoken about. Free speech is the guarantee that ideas and views can be held or exchanged without fear of the government punishing an individual who holds views them. This prevents the government from censoring opinions it dislikes. Right now, sure, it's about Nazism. But who defines Nazism? If we put a blanket ban on "all glorification of Nazis or their ideology," who makes the determination on borderline cases? Who defines exactly which words can't be used? Do you really trust the government to make those choices for us? Free speech is protection from oppression, even though some of you seem to think it enables oppression. Free speech allows us to be who we are, openly and honestly, and in turn makes it easier for us to pick and choose our friends and associates. Would you rather somebody speak up about their racist ideology so people know they're scum, or would it be better if they kept it hidden until it bubbled over into something more extreme than words? Apart from debating free speech as a concept, there's another problem here. Some people are far, far too susceptible to propaganda. Snappy headlines. Self-granted titles. The act of naming one's self, or one's proposal, in a certain way, does not actually ensure that the name or title is accurate. I see it all the time around here: "If you dislike antifa, then you must be a facist." This is patently untrue, in a variety of ways. Do you think North Korea, or the "DPRK (Democratic People's Republic of Korea)" is actually democratic? Do you think it belongs to the people? Just because a proposal is titled in a way that makes it seem like its purpose is to combat Nazism, that doesn't mean that's what it's actually for. The devil is in the details. Don't vote just for the titles, or judge a story based on its headlines. What ever happened to the classic adage, "don't judge a book by its cover?" It doesn't just apply to good books with bad covers. It applies to bad ones with good covers, too. --- I write Naruto Fanfiction. But I am definitely not a furry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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