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TopicWatching some old episodes of Kitchen Nightmare
Aaantlion
11/21/20 7:36:53 PM
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Final Fantasy2389 posted...
Not every ep but I sometimes watch episodes here:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9iRkjvEKSjsTEQtjdLDe5ovu7Q1GtMT7

Thanks.

yutterh posted...
My favorite epilogue since you being it up is one where he went to Paris to help out. Found a gem of a chef who went on to join one of his kitchens in england and then she went and opened her own restraunt with a employee there. Oh and the manager chick he was trying to help ended up becoming a hooker and abandoned the business

https://www.financialexpress.com/archive/chef-turned-woman-into-200-a-night-prostitute/633644/

It's kinda crazy how much of these stories turned out badly. I'm not sure one episode I've seen so far (from season 1) has had the restaurant last. In the case of one place, it closed a few months after and then supposedly they re-opened it briefly to shoot the epilogue.

Then apparently another restauranteur killed himself after being on the show:
https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/Recipes/kitchen-nightmares-participant-joe-cerniglia-commits-suicide/story?id=11744484

Sure, I know that all of these places had problems in the first place (hence being on the show), but if nothing worked out for anybody, why the hell would people keep agreeing to go on? (Barring maybe the first 2-3 seasons before you saw how many places went bellyup anyway)

captainjeff87 posted...
I've been watching some clips on Youtube lately ever since one came up in my recommendations

Dumb question but what's the ratio of reality to scripted?

Like I've watched several clips and they all follow the same formula

The reality is if Gordon Ramsay is there, you're going to be nervous >_>

But a lot of the formula kinda makes sense:
-You're always going to start with the people who work there telling their side of things. And there are always going to be complaints because things aren't going well. (I mean, nobody winds up on a show called Kitchen Nightmares if they have a well-run restaurant where everything is going smoothly.)

-You have to have Ramsay arrive and introduce himself, since otherwise it'd be weird for him to just be there.

-He also orders food, because that's a natural way of evaluating a place and getting a sense for how things work. I'll admit that his reactions are generally over the top and that looks really fake. However, in the episodes I've seen, he has remarked that a few items were pretty good. (I'm not sure if he does two separate takes -- one where he likes things and one where he doesn't -- to suit the direction later on.)

-He observes an average night. Again, this is kinda how you have to evaluate places. The fact that things randomly go wrong feels formulaic, but part of it might also just be a matter of them recording all night to find instances of something going badly so they can highlight it. And I'm sure they interview every diner and just focus on the negative comments.

As for the problems, they tend to vary although most restaurants with issues are probably going to have some of the same problems. The fact that he's called in means that these restaurants are in trouble. Most of the big problems are highlighted in the episode preview.

I'm sure a lot of the stuff is ginned up for the show, but you're always going to have staff issues, coworker drama, etc. Most restaurants are going to have problems with either cleanliness or food safety (one episode so far it never came up, so I assume that the owner/chef did a really good job... or there was a problem but they chose to focus on other things that episode).

And you're always going to see a turnaround that seems to work, but part of that is simply because Ramsay is promoting the re-opening/revamp so you get interest (assuming that they're just not actors) and then the epilogue a few months later is going to look successful which, in at least one case, appears to have definitely been staged. However, it's not terribly surprising that a restaurant would become popular for a while after being featured on a show.

But by design, the show *has* to follow something of a formula and that's not strictly the result of scripting or fakery.

And I'll mention his best restaurant competition also followed a pretty tight formula (again, because they had to do certain things to evaluate them) and it never really felt as fake as this. Of course, in that case, Gordon had also picked restaurants he felt were promising (although some aren't here today).

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